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Vehicle 50384


Class 105

Builder: Cravens
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: AEC 150hp / Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30282
Diagram: 525

Allocations

21/05/57 New to 53C (Hull Springhead)
30/11/58 Transferred to 53B (Hull Botanic Gardens) - (53C closed)
Jan-60Depot code change50C
3w/e 27/11/65 Transferred to 31A (Cambridge)
3w/e 30/04/66 Transferred to 34G (Finsbury Park)
May-73Depot code changeFP
w/e 03/04/77 Transferred to NR (Norwich)
21/11/82 Transferred to AY (Ayr)
p/e 21/05/83 Stored
Oct-83 Withdrawn from AY (Ayr)

Notes

1st December 1982 - Seen carrying unit no. 105 373 while running with 51301 + 56464

Disposal

Scrapped by Mayer Newman, Snailwell

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:


50384 56139 As delivered to 53C - 21st May 1957
50384 56139 Transfer to 31A - 3w/e 27/11/65
50384 56139 Transfer to 34G - 3w/e 30/04/66
50384 56424 Noted 01/01/1972 - at Kings Cross1
50384 56115 Noted 12/04/73 - on 0955 Kings Cross-Cambridge with 50360 + 56418
50384 56115 Noted 20/05/73
50384 56115 Noted 28/07/73 - at Ipswich2
50384 56430 Noted 06/10/73 - at Bury St Edmunds3
50384 56450 Noted 28/07/74 - at Bury St Edmunds3
50384 56450 Noted 06/08/19741
50384 56450 Noted 23/08/75 - in Kings Cross3
50384 56453 Noted 11/06/76 - at Bury St Edmunds3
50384 56430 Noted 28/08/76 - at Bury St Edmunds3
50384 56430 Noted 12/09/76 - in Kings Cross4
50384 56430 Noted 25/11/76 - on Cambridge depot3
50384 56453 Noted 10/03/77 - on Cambridge depot3
50384 56453 Noted 13/03/77 - at Bury St Edmunds3
35 50384 56441 Noted 11/04/77 - at Bury St Edmunds3
50384 56441 Noted 12/10/77 - on 1247 Cambridge-Ipswich
35 50384 56186 Listed at NR - Autumn 1978
35 50384 56186 Noted 08/01/79 - at Norwich3
50384 56144 Noted 05/02/79 - at Norwich3
35 50384 56414 Noted 08/04/79 - on Norwich depot3
50384 56437 Noted March 1982
50384 51301 56464 Noted 1st December 1982
50384 51301 56464 Noted 2nd December 1982 - at Craigentinny depot
50384 51301 56464 Noted 8th January 1983 - on Glasgow Central - Kilmacolm services
50384 59794 51251 Noted 24th February 1983

Formation Sources
1: Peter Wallwork
2: Ipswich Transport Society
3: Gerald Brown
4: Leonard Rogers

Images:

Class 105 DMU at Sudbury

10th April 1979

A Class 105 at Sudbury on 10 April 1979, awaiting the return back to Marks Tey. The leading car is E50384 and I only noted it as I got it new. Sadly the meticulous noting down of everything that I saw was waning by then. Alistair Ness.

Class 105 DMU at Harwich Parkeston Quay

January 1982

Set number: 35

Class 105 set 35 at Harwich Parkeston Quay in January 1982. The dent high up on the cab front suggests 50384 is leading. Alistair Ness.

Class 105 DMU at near Elderslie

January 1983

A three-car Class 105 formation (presumably 50384 attached to 51301 + 56464) is seen near Elderslie in January 1983 during the last days of the Kilmacolm service. Alistair Ness.

Class 105 DMU at near Bridge of Weir

January 1983

A three-car Class 105 formation (presumably 50384 with 51301 + 56464) is seen near Bridge of Weir in January 1983 in the last days of the Kilmacolm service. Alistair Ness.

Class 105 DMU at Glasgow Central

circa early 1983

Set number: 105373

107 428 and 105 373 (50384) side by side in Glasgow Central station. Date unknown, the Cravems was a Scottish vehicle from November 1982 and stored in May 1983 till withdrawal. Phil Deane Collection.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Last Day No.23. Cravens 105 373 triple idles at Kilmacolm and is probably waiting to form the 16:01 service for Glasgow Central. An old notebook suggests this was DMBS E50384 (nearest) + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464. This may have been the last daylight departure from Kilmacolm. The masonry wall to the left is the corner of the former goods shed. Whilst the station buildings survived closure as a pub, the goods shed succumbed to redevelopment and was flattened to make way for housing. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

A Class 105 3-car formed of 50384 + 51301 + 56464 at Kilmacolm on 8 January 1983, the last day of passenger services on the branch. They arrived with the 13:07 ex-Glasgow Central and will return there with the 14:01 departure. Rob Paterson.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Last Day. Cravens 105 373 triple has arrived at Kilmacolm on the 15:07 ex Glasgow Central with E50384 nearest the camera. An old notebook suggests the Set was DMBS E50384 + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

Class 105 DMU at Houston and Crosslee

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Last Day. Cravens triple 105 373 on the approach to Houston and Crosslee station. The double fence on the left is the footpath from the station to Brookfield via the footbridge from which the picture was taken. DMBS E50384 + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464 are working the 12:01 Kilmacolm to Glasgow service. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

Class 105 DMU at near Bridge of Weir

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

A Cravens class 105 DMU (DMBS 50384 attached to 51301 and 56464) forms a Kilmacolm line train near Bridge of Weir on the last day of service, 8 January 1983. Alistair Ness.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

On the final day of passenger services to Kilmacolm on 8 January 1983, Cravens-built trailer 56464 is at the "Glasgow end", 51301 is in the centre and 50384 at the end nearest the photographer. These were built in the second half of the '50s, All were built by Cravens of Sheffield, 50384 was new in 1957 and the other pair in 1959. Jeremy Chapter.

Class 105 DMU at Paisley Canal

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Class 105 Paisley Canal 8 Jan 1983. A Cravens 3 car formation (DMBS 50384 attached to 51301 and 56464) passes Paisley Canal box with a service from Kilmacolm to Glasgow Central on the last day of service. Alistair Ness.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Last Day No.21. Cravens 105 373 triple has arrived at Kilmacolm on the 15:07 ex Glasgow Central with E50384 nearest the camera. An old notebook suggests the Set was DMBS E50384 + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464. The train is starting to fill up again for the return to Glasgow Central on the 16:01. 'Passengers' are keen to get a good seat on one of the few remaining trains. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

Class 105 DMU at Bridge of Weir

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Last Day No.17. Cravens 105 373 crosses the viaduct over the River Gryffe at Bridge of Weir. It is heading east towards the station on the 14:01 Kilmacolm - Glasgow Central service. An old notebook suggests this was DMBS E50384 (nearest) + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464. The girder bridge crosses a minor road to the then children's home at Quarriers Village. There was a tannery on the other side of the viaduct which is long gone. However, leather manufacture still exists in Bridge of Weir at a modern facility on the other side of town by the Locher Water. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

Class 105 DMU at Cart Junction

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Last Day No.5. Cravens 105 373 triple climbs from Cart Junction on the ‘Down Branch’ to the main line at Elderslie No.2 with the 10:01 Kilmacolm - Glasgow service. An old notebook suggests this was DMBS E50384 (nearest camera) + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464 (leading). The ‘Up Branch’ from Elderslie No.2 via the fly-under is in the foreground. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

Class 105 DMU at Bridge of Weir

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

A Cravens DMU (50384, set 105373) arrives into Bridge of Weir station on the last day of operations on the Kilmacolm branch, 8 January 1983. Andrew McConnell.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Single DMBS 50384 is attached to 51301 and 56464 at Kilmacolm on January 8th, 1983. The headboard requires a little bit of explanation - the last two surviving Class 126 sets had somehow managed to escape withdrawal at the time of the line's closure and one of the Swindon Diesel Preservation Society members had contacted BR to enquire if the sets could be rostered for service on the last day. A headboard was knocked up in the hope that something could be arranged. In the event, the Swindons were not rostered and the board seemed somewhat inappropriate, but was mounted for a short time at Kilmacolm for photographs. Andrew McConnell.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Single DMBS 50384 is attached to 51301 and 56464 at Kilmacolm on January 8th, 1983. This was the last day of services on the line, and they are waiting to depart with the 12:01 to Glasgow Central. Hamish Stevenson.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

105 373 comprising 3 driving vehicles (50384 + 51301 + 56464) reverses at Kilmacolm on the last day of passenger services on the branch, Saturday 08/01/1983. The line between Elderslie and Kilmacolm officially closed completely and between Elderslie and Shields Junction to scheduled passenger services on 10 January 1983. Andrew McConnell.

Class 105 DMU at Paisely Canal

8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

105373, made up of 3 driving vehicles (50384 + 51301 + 56464), pauses at Paisley Canal Station on the last day of operations of the branch, 8 January 1983. The line between Kilmacolm, Elderslie and Shields Junction closed completely to scheduled passenger services on 10 January 1983, although the section to Paisley Canal subsequently reopened and is now electrified. A temporary footbridge replaces the former wooden booking office, which was situated on the road bridge with staircases to each platform. The main station building was converted to a pub. The new station is a single terminus platform on the other side of the bridge. Andrew McConnell.

Class 105 DMU at Kilmacolm

8th January 1983

The 14:01 Kilmacolm - Glasgow service is seen near Kilmacolm on the last day of services, 8/1/83. It is formed of a 2-car Class 105 with an extra DMBS - 50384 / 51301 + E56464. The two DMBS demonstrate the two different van layouts the class had. Hamish Stevenson.


The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

DMU

Date: 10th April 1979

Set number: 35

A Class 105 at Sudbury on 10 April 1979, having arrived at the truncated terminus on my Easter Region Rover. The far power car is E50384. Alistair Ness.

DMU

Date: 18th January 1981

Set number: 77

Two Cravens DMUs waiting to depart from Cambridge for Ipswich and Ely on 18 January 1981. Closest is a DTCL from set 77 - it seems to have been one of the vehicles that was built with four marker lamps - the centre two have been removed and plated over. The other vehicle is the DMBS from set 35 and has the mounting for the top centre marker lamp. It is thought to be 50384 which also once had four lamps. Rob Edwards.

DMU

Date: circa January 1983

A 2-car Class 105 with a DMBS stuck on the back (presumably E56464 + 51301 with 50384) seen at Kilmacolm. Date unknown, but judging by the attention the train is getting this is probably taken in January 1983 when the line closed. Phil Deane Collection.

DMU

Date: January 1983

The end is nigh. A three-car Class 105 formation (presumably E56464 + 51301 with 50384) is seen at Ferguslie Park in Jan 1983 on the last days of the Kilmacolm service. Alistair Ness.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

A Class 105 3-car formed of 56464 + 51301 + 50384 at Kilmacolm after arriving with the 13:07 ex-Glasgow Central on 8 January 1983, the last day of passenger services on the branch. Rob Paterson.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

Cravens vehicles 56464 closest, with 51301 and 50384, at Kilmacolm on January 8th, 1983. This was the last day of services on the line, and they are waiting to depart with the 14:01 to Glasgow Central. Hamish Stevenson.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

Cravens vehicles 56464 closest, with 51301 and 50384, at Kilmacolm on January 8th, 1983. This was the last day of services on the line, and they are waiting to depart with the 14:01 to Glasgow. Hamish Stevenson.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

Set number: 105373

Last Day No.4. Cravens 105 373 triple takes the ‘Down Branch’ at Cart Junction on the returning 10:01 Kilmacolm - Glasgow Central service under darkening skies. An old notebook suggests this was DMBS E50384 + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464 (nearest camera). Reduced to a single lead, Cart Junction once served routes to Kilbarchan, Kilmacolm, Elderslie and Johnstone. The houses in the background are the outskirts of Linwood. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

Class 105 Paisley Canal 8 Jan 1983. A Cravens 3 car formation (56464 + 51301 with 50384 attached) leaves Paisley Canal for Kilmacolm on the last day of service. Alistair Ness.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

Class 105 Paisley Canal 8 Jan 1983. A service from Kilmacolm arrives at Paisley Canal on the last day, formed 56464 + 51301 + 50384. Alistair Ness.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

Last Day No.16. Looking west as Cravens triple 105373 accelerates away from Bridge of Weir station towards Kilmacolm on the 13:07 working from Glasgow Central. An old notebook suggests this was DMBS E50384 + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464 (nearest to camera). A Ford Capri is turning onto the parallel Main Street (A761) which rises to cross over the railway on the skew at the station. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

On the last day of Kilmacolm services, January 8th, 1983, E56464 leads 51301 and 50384 near Kilmacolm. Hamish Stevenson.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

The 11:07 Glasgow - Kilmacolm service is seen near Kilmacolm on January 8th, 1983, the last day of services on the line. 56464 is closest, with 51301 and 50384. Hamish Stevenson.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

A Cravens class 105 DMU (56464 and 51301 with DMBS 50384 attached) forms a Kilmacolm line train near Bridge of Weir on the last day of service, 8 January 1983. Alistair Ness.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

Last Day No.10. Looking west as Cravens triple 105373 enjoys some winter sunshine. It is powering towards Houston and Crosslee station on the 12:01 Kilmacolm - Glasgow Central service. An old notebook suggests this was DMBS E50384 + DMBS E51301 + DTSL E56464 (nearest camera). Sandholes Road crosses the railway in the background and Brookfield is to the left. Saturday 08 January 1983. alicia hartman.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

On the final day of passenger services to Kilmacolm on January 8, 1983, Cravens-built trailer 56464 is at the "Glasgow end", 51301 is in the centre and 50384 at the far end. Jeremy Chapter.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

E56464 at the head of a mash-up class 105 unit at Kilmacolm on 8 January 1983, the last day of services on the branch. (It has since been reopened as far as Paisley Canal.) The driving motor second (50384) at the far end also had an "E" prefix to its number but carried an "AY" (Ayr) allocation sticker. The centre car of the formation was 51301. These Cravens-built cars were delivered between 1956 and 1959. Note that station signage has been removed. Jeremy Chapter.

DMU

Date: 8th January 1983

E56464 at the head of a mash-up class 105 unit at Kilmacolm on 8 January 1983, the last day of services on the branch. (It has since been reopened as far as Paisley Canal.) The driving motor second (50384) at the far end also had an "E" prefix to its number but carried an "AY" (Ayr) allocation sticker. The centre car of the formation was 51301. These Cravens-built cars were delivered between 1956 and 1959. Jeremy Chapter.

DMU

Date: 21st May 1983

Set number: 105375

Although not officially withdrawn until September 1983 it is highly unlikey that Class 105 DMBS E51301 ever carried any more passengers as it sits vandalised in Falkland Yard, Ayr on the 21st May 1983. Attached to sister Class 105 DMBS E50384 together they had operated together for a short time as Ayr TMD unit 105375. Both vehicles eventually made the long one way journey to Mayer Newmans Yard in Snailwell, Cambridgeshire where they were scrapped in January and June 1984 respectively. Bob Woolnough.