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Vehicle 50517 / 53517


Class 104

Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30294
Diagram: 558

Allocations

4w/e 28/12/57 New to 5B (Crewe South)
Apr-63 Transferred to 5D (Cockshute)
3w/e 30/04/66 Transferred to 9A (Longsight)
4w/e 04/02/67 Transferred to 9D (Newton Heath)
May-73Depot code changeNH
04/02/87 Transferred to AY (Ayr)
Mar-87 Transferred to ED (Eastfield)
02/10/88 Transferred to NH (Newton Heath)
14/05/89 Transferred to CH (Chester) PCHX
21/05/90 Withdrawn from CH (Chester) PXXZ

Notes

30th April 1990 - Seen stored out of use at Chester depot
12th October 1990 - Listed as condemned at Chester depot
22/04/91 - withdrawn vehicles noted at Chester: 53431, 53442, 53494, 53512, 53516, 53517, 53534, 53536, 59065, 59137, 59525; also soon to be W SC59049 and SC59074

The vehicle carried the following numbers:

50517 - original number
53517 - from Jun-84 (53xxx / 54xxx change)

Disposal

Preserved - more details.

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:


50465 59173 50517 As delivered to 5B - 4w/e 28/12/57
50465 59173 50517 Noted 20/07/68 - in Newton Heaton depot1
50465 59173 50517 Noted 12/09/71 - at Wigan Wallgate1
50465 59173 50517 Noted 08/06/72 - in Manchester Victoria1
50465 59173 50517 Noted circa 05/1973 - listed at Bletchley on loan2
50465 59173 50517 Noted 28/08/75 - on Newton Heath depot3
50465 59173 50517 Noted 10/04/76 - in Manchester Victoria1
50465 59173 50517 Noted 15/04/77 - on 1415 Manchester V-Blackpool N
50465 59173 50517 Noted 25/07/79 - on 17:20 Southport - Bolton4
50465 59173 50517 Noted 03/08/79
NH136 50450 50517 Noted circa 05/19822
NH136 50450 50517 Noted 19/07/1982 - Manchester Victoria2
50450 50517 Noted circa 03/19832
53464 59168 53517 Listed at Newton Heath - Summer 1986
456 53464 59168 53517 Listed at ED - 23/03/87
456 53464 59168 53517 Noted circa 04/19872
456 53464 59168 53517 Noted 07/05/19872
456 53464 59168 53517 Listed at ED - Jan-88
456 53464 59168 53517 Listed at ED - 1st January 1988
432 51992 59168 53517 Noted February 1988
456 53464 59168 53517 Noted 31st March 1988
456 53464 59168 53517 Noted circa 05/19882
456 53464 59168 53517 Listed at ED - 16th July 1988
456 53464 59168 53517 Listed at ED - circa August 1988
456 53464 59168 53517 Noted 16th August 1988
N680 53464 53517 Noted 28th October 1988
N680 53464 53517 Noted circa 11/19882
53464 53517 Noted 26th November 1988
N680 53464 53517 Noted 4th February 1989
456 53464 59168 53517 Noted March 1989
CH611 53451 53517 Listed at CH - 1st July 1989
CH611 53451 53517 Noted 3rd September 1989
CH611 53451 53517 Listed at CH - 14/10/89
CH611 53451 53517 Noted circa 11/19892
CH611 53451 53517 Noted 10th February 1990
CH611 53451 53517 Noted 23rd February 1990
CH611 53451 53517 Noted 26th February 1990 - EMU replacement services to Altrincham
CH611 53451 53517 Noted 27th February 1990
CH611 53451 53517 Noted 14th April 1990

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Eddie Knorn
3: Gerald Brown
4: Phil Shatford

Images:

Class 104 DMU at The Hawthorns

2nd May 1965

Two BRC&W triples are seen at The Hawthorns (on the Great Western Birmingham - Wolverhampton line) on 2 May 1965. The now preserved M50517 leads, at the time allocated to Cockshute. Michael Mensing.

Class 104 DMU at Preston

August 1981

A Class 104 at Preston in August 1981 with DMCL M50517 closest. Curly42.

Class 104 DMU at Leyland

16th May 1986

A three-car Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53517, M59168 & M53464 was stood on the Down Fast at Leyland station with a Manchester Victoria to Blackpool North service on May 16th 1986. Unusually, the centre trailer car (M59168) was in blue/grey livery. M53517 has survived into preservation and is currently at the East Lancashire Railway. Martyn Hilbert.

Class 104 DMU at Eastfield depot

2nd May 1987

Set number: 456

53517 with 59168 and 53464 at Eastfield depot on the 2nd May 1987. Dennis Taylor.

Class 104 DMU at Glasgow Queen Street

1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 unit no. 456 stands at Glasgow Queen Street, 53517 closest presumably with 59168 + 53464. The Garden Festival signage at the end of the platform dates this to 1988. Ian Docwra.

Class 104 DMU at Edinburgh Waverley

March 1988

Set number: 456

New and Old in Waverley. In March 1988 set 456 is seen with 53517, 59168 and 53464 at platform 15 with a Bathgate service, while a newfangled Sprinter sits on platform 17. Murray Liston.

Class 104 DMU at Chester depot

3rd September 1989

Set number: CH611

CH611 M53517 + M53451 stabled on Chester Depot 3-9-89. Kevin Dowd.

Class 104 DMU at Tyseley

26th December 1989

Set number: CH611

Class 104 53517, set number CH611, is seen stabled at Tyseley on 26.12.1989 in all over BR blue. On the right is M53124. Andy Cole.

Class 104 DMU at Chester

6th January 1990

Set number: CH611

CH611 (53517 + 53451) at Chester with the 14:35 to Warrington Central on 6/1/90. Gazza Prescott.

Class 104 DMU at Manchester Piccadilly

15th February 1990

Set number: CH611

A rather tired looking Chester allocated Class 104 set CH611 comprising of 53517 + 53451 in Manchester Piccadilly's platform 1 with a local service, 15th February 1990. Andrew J Crowther.

Class 104 DMU at Chester

12th November 1990

Set number: CH611

53517 in the scrapline at Chester, 12/11/90. Gazza Prescott.

Class 104 DMU at Chester depot

6th April 1991

Hiding behind 08 635 at Chester on 6 April 1991 is out of use BRCW Class 104 DMSL 53517. Dave Warby.


The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

DMU

Date: 3rd August 1979

Blackpool North was a frequent haunt for Class 104s. In the station when this shot was taken on the 3rd August 1979 were 50524 + 59183 + 50475, 50504 + 59160 + 50452, 50477 + 59185 + 50529 and 50517 + 59173 + 50465. Robert Frise.

DMU

Date: 17th August 1981

A Class 104 DMU formed of DMBS 50465 + DMCL 50517 departs from Church & Oswaldtwistle (Lancashire) on 17-8-1981. John Law Collection.

DMU

Date: 2nd May 1983

Class 104 power twin DMU 50450 + 50517 coming down Miles Platting, 2-5-83. On Tour With the Class 13 Army.

DMU

Date: 1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) arrives into Dunblane station while a Class 107 sits in the southbound platform. Circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.

DMU

Date: 1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) about to arrive into Bridge of Allan station with a southbound service circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.

DMU

Date: 1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) in platform 3 of Stirling station circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.

DMU

Date: spring 1988

Set number: 456

Eastfield's BRCW set 456 (53464 + 59168 + 53517) arrives at Waverley in the spring of 1988. It seems to have drawn a crowd of young admirers in the background, a spot where I was first introduced to (green) DMUs and locos moving around here at a similar age. This long-time Manchester set came up to Scotland in 1987 but lasted less than 2 years before living out a final year of service at Newton Heath. Murray Liston.

DMU

Date: 10th June 1988

Set number: 456

53464 + 59168 + (53517), working the 17:28 Cowdenbeath - Edinburgh on June 10, 1988, pass a Class 101 centre car stabled in the east end of Haymarket depot. Hamish Stevenson.

DMU

Date: 24th August 1988

Set number: 456

53464 + 59168 + 53517 (set 456) is working with a Class 101 on the 17:10 Edinburgh - Dunblane service on August 24, 1988, seen just after departure in Princes Street Gardens. Hamish Stevenson.

DMU

Date: 20th March 1989

Set number: N680

N680 (53464, presumably with 53517) at Sheffield on March 20, 1989. John Carter.

DMU

Date: 15th February 1990

Set number: CH611

A rather tired looking Chester allocated Class 104 DMU set CH611 comprising of 53451 + 53517 in Manchester Piccadilly's platform 1 with a local service, 15th February 1990. Andrew J Crowther.

DMU

Date: 5th June 1990

Condemned Class 104 DMUs M53431, 53512 and M53517 at Chester on June 5th, 1990. Nicholas Youngman.