Vehicle 56171 / 975006
Class 109
Builder: Wickham
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30289
Diagram: 607
Allocations
| 29/10/57 | New to | 30A (Stratford) | |
| Nov-58 | Transferred to | 31A (Cambridge) | |
| 2w/e 13/08/66 | Transferred to | 30A (Stratford) | |
| 4w/e 07/10/67 | To departmental stock | 36A (Doncaster) | |
| May 1973 | Depot code change | DR | |
| by 03/03/80 | Transferred to | YK (York) | |
| Oct-81 | Withdrawn |
The vehicle carried the following numbers:
56171 - original number
975006 - from Oct-67 (departmental stock)
Department Use as TDB975006
ER General Manager's Saloon From 10/67 to 10/81.
Disposal
Preserved - more details.
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50416 | 56171 | As delivered to 30A - 29th October 1957 | |||||||
| 50416 | 56171 | Noted 11th December 1957 | |||||||
| 50416 | 56171 | Noted 9th March 1958 | |||||||
| 50415 | 56171 | Noted 22nd March 1958 | |||||||
| 50416 | 56171 | Noted 13th August 1959 | |||||||
| 50416 | 56171 | Noted 12/05/66 - on Bletchley-Cambridge services in blue livery1 | |||||||
| 975005 | 975006 | Noted 03/06/1973 - Departmental working at Doncaster | |||||||
| 975005 | 975006 | Noted 06/09/75 - at York2 | |||||||
| 975005 | 975006 | Noted 21/02/77 - at Doncaster2 | |||||||
| 975005 | 975006 | Noted 11/04/77 - at York2 |
Formation Sources
1: Roy Endersby
2: Leonard Rogers
Images:
circa October 1957
A Wickham of Ware publicity image (negative W/298) showing a side view of new E56171 and E50416 circa October 1957. It is thought be between Widford and Hadham, the second/third stations out of St. Margarets on the Buntingford branch - pretty much as close as possible to the Wickham factory at Ware without being on the main line. If so then the train is facing towards Widford and St. Margarets. Wickham.
19th January 1958
A Wickham twin DMU with E56171 and presumably E50416 at Stratford depot on 19 January 1958. Note the group gathered around the Brush loco in the shed. Stuart Mackay Collection.
circa early 1970s
The departmental Wickham DMU DB975006 + DB975005 departing from Doncaster circa early 1970s. John Horne Collection.
Unknown date
The Eastern Region General Manager's Saloon DB975006 / DB975005 is seen at the Rolling Mills, Darlington in the 1970s. Graeme Phillips Collection.
Unknown date
The Wickham ER General Managers saloon 975006 / 975005 at Chantry Road level crossing, Saxmundham, date unknown. Steve Davies Collection.
Unknown date
The Wickham built ER General Managers saloon 975006 / 975005, seen at the crossing at Tivetshall on the Great Eastern Main Line, date unknown. Steve Davies Collection.
30th July 1973
975006 / 975005 at Norwich, 30/7/73. David Mant.
Unknown date
975006 is seen in platform 14 of York station. Undated. Ian Francis.
1975
The Wickham ER General Managers saloon 975006/975005 at Saxilby station on one of its outings in 1975. Walter Burt.
Unknown date
On board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. Taken in the middle saloon looking forward. The plain section of wall on the right was once a passenger door. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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On board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. Taken from the rear of the vehicle looking forward, the lavatory on the right, through what seems to be a staff area, the seat fixed seat table have a fire alarm / track circuits alongside on the wall. Date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
1977
The Wickham saloon 975006 / 975005 seen in York TMD in 1977. John Law.
Unknown date
Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. This is the front saloon, looking rearwards. Occupants / date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. This is the front saloon, the rear of the vehicle to the left. Date unknown. Andrew Chilcott has identified the smiling young man as Colin Hall. His roles on the railway included Head of Acceptance at Railtrack then Network Rail between 1998 and 2004. He and his team dealt with acceptance primarily of rolling stock but also plant & machinery and suchlike, and accepting preserved machines onto the controlled infrastructure. He is now chair of the LMS Patriot appeal. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. Occupant / date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. Occupant / date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. It still carries its original number in the cab. Occupants / date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. Occupants / date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. Occupants / date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
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On-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. An interior view of the former DTC. Stuart Mackay Collection.
4th August 1979
Class 109 D Wickham built Eastern Region Managers Departmental Saloon 975006 + 975005 stabled at York, August 4th 1979. Ian Charles.
Unknown date
Life on-board the ER General Manager saloon: Wickham 975006. Occupants / date unknown. Stuart Mackay Collection.
12th October 1980
975006's works plate has many layers of paint! Taken at Stourton C&W, after the vehicle was taken out of use, 12/10/80. Malcolm Clements.
12th October 1980
At Stourton C&W, after the vehicle was taken out of use, 12/10/80. Malcolm Clements.
12th October 1980
975006 seen at Stourton C&W, after the vehicle was taken out of use, 12/10/80. To the left is Class 104 E50549. Malcolm Clements.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: circa October 1957
A Wickham of Ware publicity image (negative W/299) showing new E50416 and E56171 circa October 1957. It is thought be between Widford and Hadham, the second/third stations out of St. Margarets on the Buntingford branch - pretty much as close as possible to the Wickham factory at Ware without being on the main line. If so then the train is facing towards Widford and St. Margarets. Wickham.
Date: 15th December 1957
A Wickham DMU formed of E50416 + E56171 in Southend Victoria station on 15 December 1957. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 15th January 1958
Members of the BTC Eastern Area Board and officers of the Eastern Region on the platform at Prittlewell on the Shenfield - Southend (Victoria) line on 15 January 1958. Behind is a Wickham DMU formed DMBS E50416 and presumably DTCL 56171, the set took them to several locations during their inspection tour. British Railways.
Date: circa 1970
The ER General Managers saloon 975005 / 975006 seen in the excursion platform at Doncaster St James Bridge circa 1970. John Law.
Date: unknown
The Wickham ER General Managers saloon 975005 / 975006 at Tivetshall, date unknown. Steve Davies Collection.
Date: unknown
The Wickham ER General Managers saloon 975005 / 975006 heads out of Bingley past 5690. Date unknown. Rex Holt.
Date: unknown
The ER General Manager's saloon 975005 + 975006 arrives into Manchester Victoria, date unknown. Walter Burt.
Date: unknown
The ER General Managers saloon 975005 / 975006 at Darsham, date unknown. Steve Davies Collection.
Date: unknown
The ER General Managers saloon 975005 / 975006 at Darsham, date unknown. It has 'LW' painted on the blue squares. Steve Davies Collection.
Date: unknown
The ER General Managers saloon 975005 / 975006 is seen at Kennett with Aldeburgh on the blinds, as a three car set headed by a Class 104 passes on the centre road. Date unknown. Image taken by John Vaughan. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: March 1976
A rushed shot out a carriage window of Wickham-built General Manager's Saloon DB9750005 and DB975006 at York in March 1976. Hugh Llewelyn.
Date: circa 1977
The Wickham built ER General Managers Saloon 975005 + 975006 at Bayford of the Hetford Loop circa 1977. The KDH Archive.
Date: April 1977
The Wickham ER General Manager Saloon 975005 + 975006 photographed coming off the Huddersfield line at Penistone in April 1977, during a special charter working. Paul Braybrook.
Date: September 1977
The Wickham ER Saloon 975005 + 975006 seen from the NRM at York in September 1977. Tony Watson.
Date: September 1977
The Wickham ER General Managers saloon (975005/975006) in London Kings Cross in September 1977. 54A South Dock.
Date: circa 1978
Departmental DMUs at York MPD circa 1978: Wickham 975005 + 975006 and Gloucester 975349 + 975539. Chris McKee.
Date: 7th April 1979
The Eastern Region General Managers saloon DB975005 and DB975006 is seen stabled at York depot on April 7th 1979 during a Midland Railfans visit. Ian Charles.
Date: 22nd September 1979
Departmental Wickham unit 975005 and 975006 at York on 22 September 1979. Note the toilet being flushed. Brian Daniels.
Date: 12th October 1980
50549 seen at Stourton C&W on 12/10/80, in the company of the Wickham GM saloon 975006. Malcolm Clements.
Date: 21st April 1981
The ER General Managers saloon TDB975005 + TDB975006 at Stourton, Leeds, on April 21 1981. John Carter.