Vehicle 59178
Class 104
Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30295
Diagram: 582
Allocations
The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 50470 during the unknown period are:
| 4w/e 25/01/58 | New to | 5B (Crewe South) | |
| Apr-63 | Transferred to | 5D (Cockshute) | |
| 2w/e 09/10/65 | Transferred to | 9D (Newton Heath) |
Then the allocations for 59178 are:
| 15/11/81 | Withdrawn from | NH (Newton Heath) |
Disposal
Scrapped by Mayer Newman, Snailwell
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50470 | 59178 | 50522 | As delivered to 5B - 4w/e 25/01/58 | ||||||
| 50470 | 59178 | 50522 | Noted 19/09/71 - on Chester depot1 | ||||||
| 50470 | 59178 | 50522 | Noted 16/04/73 - in Manchester Victoria2 | ||||||
| 50470 | 59178 | 50522 | Noted 07/10/1973 - at Southport3 | ||||||
| 50466 | 59178 | 50518 | Noted 22/06/74 - at Deganwy2 |
Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Jeremy Goodyear
Images:
16th June 1974
White stripe Class 104 TCL M59178 freshly painted at Newton Heath on 16 June 1974. David Mant.
31st March 1979
Taken to record observation saloon DMB999503 in Newton Heath depot on 31 March 1979, our interest is with the Class 104 on the left with 59178 closest. Stuart Mackay Collection.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: 5th July 1981
This slide was annotated as 12:05 Heysham to York near Moss, 1980. The eight-car formation contains a Class 104 twin, a three car with Class 104 DMCL and TCL white stripers with a Class 108 DMBS, and another three-car which seems to be Class 105 power cars with a Class 104 centre car. Update: M50468 + 50499 / M50531 + 59178 + 50944 / M50761 + 59207 + 50794 with 1P90 12:15 Heysham Harbour-Accrington relief on 5 July 1981, see https://www.flickr.com/photos/psrp/50894325502/. For the incoming working see image 27291 on this website. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 5th July 1981
An eight-car DMU formation at Heysham Moss sometime in 1981, noted as an ex-Nelson to Heysham working (Rochdale is on the destination blind. Leading is a 105/104/105 - closest appears to be 50794 so its partners are presumably 59207 + 50761. The next three-car appears to be a 108 with two white-stripe 104s, then an unidentified two-car on the rear. Update: This is now thought to be 50794 + 59207 + M50761 / 50944 + 59178 + 50531 / 50499 + 50468 which would return with the 1P90 12:15 Heysham Harbour-Accrington relief on 5th July 1981, see https://www.flickr.com/photos/psrp/50894325502/. For that working see image 30023 on this website. Stuart Mackay Collection.