Sign In

Vehicle 50516 / 53516

Class 104

Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30294
Diagram: 558

Allocations

4w/e 28/12/57	New to	5D (Cockshute)
May-58	Transferred to	5B (Crewe South)
w/e 01/10/60	Transferred to	5D (Cockshute)
3w/e 30/04/66	Transferred to	9A (Longsight)
4w/e 04/02/67	Transferred to	9D (Newton Heath)
May-73	Depot code change	NH
14/05/89	Transferred to	CH (Chester) PCHX
21/05/90	Withdrawn from	CH (Chester) PXXZ

Notes

1988 - Orange cantrail stripe
1st January 1988 - Has window bars
20th August 1989 - Part of 7-car 1T16 Chester - Trawsfynydd excursion and return consisting of M53516 + M53442 + M53531 + M53447 + M53925 + M59155 + M52039
30th April 1990 - Seen stored out of use in Chester station sidings
22/04/91 - withdrawn vehicles noted at Chester: 53431, 53442, 53494, 53512, 53516, 53517, 53534, 53536, 59065, 59137, 59525; also soon to be W SC59049 and SC59074

The vehicle carried the following numbers:

50516 - original number
53516 - from May-83 (53xxx / 54xxx change)

Modifications

Oct-86 - Window Bars Fitted

Disposal

Scrapped by Mayer Parry, Snailwell

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	50464	59172	50516	As delivered to 5D - 4w/e 28/12/57
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 20/07/68 - in Manchester Victoria¹
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 20/07/68 - in Dean Lane station¹
	51931	59172	50516	Noted 03/05/69 - Manchester Terminals Farewell railtour with 50778 + 52062¹
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 19/09/71 - on Chester depot¹
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 31/10/1972 - at Manchester Victoria²
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 17/07/76 - in Manchester Victoria¹
	50469	59177	50516	Noted circa 04/1981³
	50469	59177	50516	Noted 04/04/81 - David Isherwood's Knotty Railtour 50516 + 59177 + 50469 / 50464 + 59142 + 50521
NH142	50468	50516		Noted circa 10/1982³
	50468	50516		Noted 13/10/1982 - Worked Manchester Victoria - Rochdale / Oldham service³
	53442	53516		Listed at Newton Heath - Summer 1986
	53442	53516		Noted circa 10/1986³
	53441	53516		Listed at NH - 10/05/87
	53442	53516		Noted 13th September 1987
	53442	53516		Noted 11th October 1987
	53442	53516		Listed at NH - 1st January 1988
N664	53442	53516		Listed at NH - March 1988
	53442	53516		Noted 4th April 1988
N664	53442	53516		Noted 05/04/1988³
N664	53442	53516		Listed at NH - May 1988
N664	53442	53516		Listed at NH - May-88
N664	53442	53516		Noted circa Jul-88
	53442	53516		Noted 13/07/88 - on 10:25 Retford-Sheffield
	53442	53516		Noted 15/07/88 - on 22:22 Lincoln-Sheffield with 51175 + 53159
N664	53442	53516		Listed at NH - 16th July 1988
N664	53442	53516		Noted 7th September 1988
N664	53442	53516		Noted 3rd November 1988
CH608	53442	53516		Listed at CH - 1st July 1989
	53442	53516		Noted 10/07/89 - at Penyffordd⁴
CH608	53442	53516		Noted 22/07/89
	53442	53516		Noted 09/08/89 - on 12:02 Warrington Central - Chester⁵
CH608	53442	53516		Noted 20/08/1989 - Chester to Trawsfynydd and return section of Hertfordshire Railtours The Trawsfynydd Flyer CH608+CH610+CH371
CH608	53516	53442		Noted 20th August 1989
CH608	53442	53516		Listed at CH - 14/10/89
CH616	53442	53516		Noted 30/10/89
CH616	53516	53442		Noted 30th October 1989
CH616	53442	53516		Noted 29th November 1989 - Express Parcels service hauling BG 84404
CH616	53442	53516		Listed at CH - 12th October 1990

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Peter Wallwork
3: Eddie Knorn
4: Aaron Calder
5: Graeme Phillips

Images:

17th June 1962

M50516 is at the front of two three-car Class 104s north of Hednesford on the 17th June 1962. The second vehicle still has a full complement of footsteps on the end. Michael Mensing.

Unknown date

Class 104 DMCL M50516 at Manchester Victoria, date unknown. Paul Redmond.

4th April 1981

A six-car (2 x 3) Class 104 formation (M50516 closest) in Cheddleton station with the Knotty Rambler railtour on 4 April 1981. Alistair Ness.

17th October 1987

Class 104 M53516 with M53442 leading at Miles Platting on the 17th October 1987. Kevin Law.

9th April 1988

A BRC&W Class 104 DMU M53516 + M53442 arrives at Stockport with the shuttle from Stalybridge on the 9th April 1988, a service that ran hourly. Andrew J Crowther.

20th February 1989

Set number: N664

Class 104 BRC&W 2-car DMU 53516+53442 set N664 on the blocks at Manchester Victoria, 20-2-89. On Tour With The Class 13 Army.

22nd July 1989

Set number: CH608

Class 104 CH608 M53516 + M53442 on 2E34, 18:40 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield at Buxworth, 22-7-89. Kevin Dowd.

20th August 1989

Set number: CH608

Class 104 53516 on the end of the Chester-Trawsfynydd portion of the Hertfordshire Rail Tours 'The Trawsfynydd Flyer' railtour at Llandudno Junction on 20 August 1989. Robert Thomas.

17th October 1989

Set number: CH616

Class 104 BRC&W 2-car DMU set CH616 (53516 + 53442) Manchester Piccadilly, possibly 17-10-89. On Tour With the Class 13 Army.

30th October 1989

Set number: CH616

CH616 M53516 + M53442 stand at Llandudno waiting to depart with the 13:28 to Holyhead, 30-10-89. Robert Simpson.

6th December 1989

Set number: CH616

CH616 M53516 + M53442 on Longsight TMD's 14X road after another hard days work! 6-12-89. Kevin Dowd.

12th November 1990

Set number: CH616

53516 in the scrapline at Chester, 12/11/90. Gazza Prescott.

15th June 1991

Class 104 power car M53516 at Snailwell on 15th June 1991. Nicholas Youngman.

The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: 3rd May 1969

Set number: NH132

52062 + 50778 / 50516 + 59172 + 51931 at the Stalybridge stop of the LCGB Manchester Terminals Farewell railtour on May 3, 1969. Leonard Rogers.

Date: 3rd May 1969

Set number: NH132

The LCGB Manchester Terminals Farewell railtour in Buxton LNWR station on 3 May 1969. It was formed of 52062 + 50778 / 50516 + 59172 + 51931. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 4th April 1981

M50521 at one end of the David Isherwood 'Knotty Rambler' railtour at Cheddleton on 4 April 1981. The Six Bells Junction website notes the other vehicles as 59142 + 50464 / 50469 + 59177 + 50516. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 5th June 1982

A two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M50468 & M50516 was approaching Bamber Bridge at Walton Summit with the 12.46 Colne to Preston service on June 5th 1982. The then open fields to the left of the DMU have since been covered with a housing estate. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 1987

Set number: N664

A Class 104 DMU (set N664 53442 and presumably 53516) at Newton Heath depot in 1987. Spannerman37025.

Date: 31st January 1987

A two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53442 & M53516 was awaiting departure from Bamber Bridge with a Preston to Colne service on January 31st 1987. The set was withdrawn in 1990 and scrapped by Mayer Newman at Snailwell in Cambridgeshire in 1991. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 15th September 1988

Set number: N664

Class 104 set N664 (53442 + 53516) in Manchester Piccadilly station on 15/9/88. Rex Holt.

Date: 29th March 1989

Set number: N664

Newton Heath TMD allocated Class 104 set No. N664 formed of Class 104 DMBS M53442 and DMCL M53516 along with Class 108 set No. N608 formed of DMBS M50978 and DTCL M54261 await departure time from Manchester Victoria Station with an afternoon service to Southport on the 29th March 1989. All four vehicles would be scrapped within two and a half years. Bob Woolnough.

Date: 17th October 1989

Set number: CH616

Class 104 2-car DMU CH616(53442 + 53516) departs Hathersage for Sheffield, possibly 17-10-89. On Tour With the Class 13 Army.

Date: 5th June 1990

Class 104 DMUs M53442 53516 and 53536 at Chester on June 5th 1990. Nicholas Youngman.

➤