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Vehicle 50464 / 53464

Class 104

Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30293
Diagram: 556

Allocations

4w/e 28/12/57	New to	5D (Cockshute)
May-58	Transferred to	5B (Crewe South)
w/e 01/10/60	Transferred to	5D (Cockshute)
3w/e 30/04/66	Transferred to	9A (Longsight)
4w/e 04/02/67	Transferred to	9D (Newton Heath)
May-73	Depot code change	NH
Feb-87	Transferred to	AY (Ayr)
Mar-87	Transferred to	ED (Eastfield)
02/10/88	Transferred to	NH (Newton Heath)
08/09/89	Withdrawn from	NH (Newton Heath) PZQX

Notes

9th July 1989 - Seen out of service at Newton Heath depot
19th October 1989 - Listed as withdrawn/out of use
4th December 1989 - Seen stored out of service at Newton Heath depot
12th October 1990 - Listed as condemned at Crewe Basford Hall Yard

The vehicle carried the following numbers:

50464 - original number
53464 - from Oct-83 (53xxx / 54xxx change)

Modifications

circa Jul-72 - AWS fitted
Sep-79 - AWS fitted

Disposal

Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	50464	59172	50516	As delivered to 5D - 4w/e 28/12/57
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 20/07/68 - in Manchester Victoria¹
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 20/07/68 - in Dean Lane station¹
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 19/09/71 - on Chester depot¹
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 31/10/1972 - at Manchester Victoria²
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 17/07/76 - in Manchester Victoria¹
	50464	59172	50516	Noted 10/07/1977 - Worked 09.56 Manchester Vic - Holyhead with 50442 - 59150 - 50494³
	50464	59142	50521	Noted 04/04/1981 - David Isherwood's Knotty Railtour 50516-59177-50469 + 50464-59142-50521
NH448	50464	59176	50498	Noted 19/07/1982 - Manchester Victoria³
	50464	50518		Noted 22/12/1982³
	50464	50518		Noted circa 03/1983³
	53464	53524		Noted 21/08/84
	53464	53524		Noted 15/02/85
	53464	59168	53517	Listed at Newton Heath - Summer 1986
456	53464	59168	53517	Listed at ED - 23/03/87
456	53464	59168	53517	Noted circa 04/1987³
456	53464	59168	53517	Noted 07/05/1987³
456	53464	59168	52059	Noted July 1987
456	53464	59168	53517	Listed at ED - Jan-88
456	53464	59168	53517	Listed at ED - 1st January 1988
456	53464	59800	52026	Noted February 1988
456	53464	59168	53517	Noted 31st March 1988
456	53464	59168	53517	Noted circa 05/1988³
456	53464	59168	53517	Listed at ED - 16th July 1988
456	53464	59168	53517	Listed at ED - circa August 1988
456	53464	59168	53517	Noted 16th August 1988
N680	53464	53517		Noted 28th October 1988
N680	53464	53517		Noted circa 11/1988³
	53464	53517		Noted 26th November 1988
N680	53464	53517		Noted 4th February 1989
456	53464	59168	53517	Noted March 1989

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Peter Wallwork
3: Eddie Knorn

Images:

Unknown date

Class 104 DMBS M50464 in Manchester Victoria station, date unknown. Paul Redmond.

circa 1980

Class 104s cross at Shaw station circa 1980. The vehicle on the right looks like it could be 50464. Richard Greenwood.

30th July 1981

Class 104 DMBS M50464 was at the rear of the 14.30 Preston to Colne service departing from Bamber Bridge on July 30th 1981. Intending passengers garner at the subway entrance on the Preston bound platform ready to board the class 108 approaching with a Colne to Preston service. Martyn Hilbert.

3rd September 1985

A Class 104 three-car DMU, with Driving Motor Brake Second (DMBS) M53464 leading, was passing Narrow Lane Crossing at Midge Hall with a Preston to Ormskirk service on September 3rd 1985. A blue/grey centre trailer car (TSL) had been added to the set. Martyn Hilbert.

8th July 1987

Set number: 456

Looking south at track level as a 3 car BRC&W class 104 dmu headed by car SC53464 (presumably with 59168 + Class 108 52059) heads north across the Forth Bridge, which spans the Firth of Forth in Scotland, the bridge which links Queensferry and Inverkeithing and is 8,296 feet long. 8th July 1987. Andrew J Crowther.

8th July 1987

Set number: 456

Looking north at track level as a 3 car BRC&W dmu 104456 (53464 closest, presumably with 59168 + Class 108 52059) crosses the Forth Bridge, which spans the Firth of Forth in Scotland, the bridge which links Queensferry and Inverkeithing is 8,296 feet long. 8th July 1987. Andrew J Crowther.

22nd July 1987

Set number: 104456

The late-running 17.03 Glasgow Queen St - Dunblane about to depart Stirling at 17.52 (12 minutes late) on 22/7/87. The set is formed 52059(furthest from camera)/59168/53464. Leonard Rogers.

August 1987

From Birmingham to Bathgate 2. Services restarted from Edinburgh to Bathgate in 1986 and used a variety of worn out DMUs shuttling to and from a new single platform terminus station built in the former goods yard. In August 1987 we see BRCW class 104 DMU 53464 still wearing its M prefix following its transfer from Newton Heath 6 months earlier. It was running with blue / grey centre car 59168. This station closed in 2010 when the through route to Airdrie was reopened and electrified and a new station constructed nearby. Murray Liston.

August 1987

Set number: 456

Services restarted from Edinburgh to Bathgate in 1986 and used a variety of worn out DMUs shuttling to and from a new single platform terminus station built in the former goods yard. In August 1987 we see BRCW class 104 DMU 53464 still wearing its M prefix following its transfer from Newton Heath 6 months earlier. This station closed in 2010 when the through route to Airdrie was reopened and electrified and a new station constructed nearby. Murray Liston.

August 1987

Set number: 456

BRCW from Bathgate. Services restarted from Edinburgh to Bathgate in 1986 and used a variety of worn out DMUs shuttling to and from a new single platform terminus station built in the former goods yard. In August 1987 we see BRCW class 104 DMU 53464 still wearing its M prefix following its transfer from Newton Heath 6 months earlier. It is seen leaving Haymarket on a Bathgate to Edinburgh working, running with blue / grey centre car 59168. Murray Liston.

August 1987

Set number: 456

Services restarted from Edinburgh to Bathgate in 1986 and used a variety of worn out DMUs shuttling to and from a new single platform terminus station built in the former goods yard. In August 1987 we see BRCW class 104 DMU 53464 still wearing its M prefix following its transfer from Newton Heath 6 months earlier. It is seen passing the erstwhile Haymarket Coal Yard on an Edinburgh to Bathgate working, running with blue / grey centre car 59168 and class 108 M52059. Murray Liston.

August 1987

One of the former LMR BRCW class 104 DMUs is seen during a brief layover at the west end of Edinburgh Waverley in August 1987. Still wearing its M prefix since transfer from Newton Heath 6 months previously. It is seen at the unique double sided Platform 18 commonly used for services to Dunfermline, Cowdenbeath and Cardenden. Murray Liston.

spring 1988

Set number: 456

Eastfield's BRCW set 456 (53464 + 59168 + 53517) arrives at Waverley in the spring of 1988. It seems to have drawn a crowd of young admirers in the background, a spot where I was first introduced to (green) DMUs and locos moving around here at a similar age. This long-time Manchester set came up to Scotland in 1987 but lasted less than 2 years before living out a final year of service at Newton Heath. Murray Liston.

10th June 1988

Set number: 456

53464 + 59168 + (53517), working the 17:28 Cowdenbeath - Edinburgh on June 10, 1988, pass a Class 101 centre car stabled in the east end of Haymarket depot. Hamish Stevenson.

24th August 1988

Set number: 456

53464 + 59168 + 53517 (set 456) is working with a Class 101 on the 17:10 Edinburgh - Dunblane service on August 24, 1988, seen just after departure in Princes Street Gardens. Hamish Stevenson.

20th March 1989

Set number: N680

N680 (53464, presumably with 53517) at Sheffield on March 20, 1989. John Carter.

8th June 1990

Set number: N680

Withdrawn M53464 (N680) is one of several Class 104 vehicles at Newton Heath on the 8th June 1990, along with Met-Camm 51227. Nicholas Youngman.

The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: 4th April 1981

M50521 at one end of the David Isherwood 'Knotty Rambler' railtour at Cheddleton on 4 April 1981. The Six Bells Junction website notes the other vehicles as 59142 + 50464 / 50469 + 59177 + 50516. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 30th July 1981

Passengers await the arrival of the 13.46 Colne to Preston service at Bamber Bridge on July 30th 1981. With both cars in refurbished white with blue stripe livery, Driving Motor Composite M52054 was the leading car. Just visible is the tail end of Class 104 M50464 underway in the opposite direction with the 14.30 Preston to Colne service. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 21st August 1984

Class 104 DMU car 53524, the last to carry a white stripe signifying its modified suspension, is seen coupled to 53464 passing Appley Locks between Appley Bridge and Parbold on the 21st August 1984. The large house on the hill is Parbold Hall, then home of Sir Peter Moores, son of Sir John Moores the founder of Littlewoods Pools. S Gaskell.

Date: 15th February 1985

One of the Newton Heath allocated 'White Stripe' with red buffer beam class 104 BRC&W dmu's DMCL M53524 with M53464, stand at platform 14 at a now totally unrecognizable Manchester Victoria. These units with a White Strip down the body side indicated that they had modified suspension for fast running on express services to Blackpool, which probably meant very little when i took this with the influx of class 150 'Sprinter' new builds. 15th February 1985. Andrew J Crowther.

Date: 16th May 1986

A three-car Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53517, M59168 & M53464 was stood on the Down Fast at Leyland station with a Manchester Victoria to Blackpool North service on May 16th 1986. Unusually, the centre trailer car (M59168) was in blue/grey livery. M53517 has survived into preservation and is currently at the East Lancashire Railway. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 11th October 1986

With its centre trailer car in blue/grey, a three-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53517, M59168 & M53464 was stood on the Up Fast at Leyland station with a Blackpool North to Manchester Victoria service on October 11th 1986. Of the three individual cars, M53464 & M59168 were eventually scrapped, with M53517 surviving into preservation. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 2nd May 1987

Set number: 456

53517 with 59168 and 53464 at Eastfield depot on the 2nd May 1987. Dennis Taylor.

Date: 13th August 1987

Set number: 456

Hybrid set 456 departs north from North Queensferry on 14 August 1987, formed of one Class 108 vehicle M52059 and two Class 104 vehicles M59168 + M53464. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 unit no. 456 stands at Glasgow Queen Street, 53517 closest presumably with 59168 + 53464. The Garden Festival signage at the end of the platform dates this to 1988. Ian Docwra.

Date: 1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) arrives into Dunblane station while a Class 107 sits in the southbound platform. Circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.

Date: 1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) about to arrive into Bridge of Allan station with a southbound service circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.

Date: 1988

Set number: 456

Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) in platform 3 of Stirling station circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.

Date: March 1988

Set number: 456

New and Old in Waverley. In March 1988 set 456 is seen with 53517, 59168 and 53464 at platform 15 with a Bathgate service, while a newfangled Sprinter sits on platform 17. Murray Liston.

Date: 15th September 1990

Golden light at Newton Heath Depot at dawn as the sun illuminated first generation DMU cars stabled on September 15th 1990. In the foreground are withdrawn Class 104s, M53421 & M53464, with out-of-service M53493 & M53444 on a parallel siding, the units being separated by a 20 Ton Brake Van. In the left background is a split 2-Car Class 101, the bodyside damage suggests the DMBS is 51227. Also present were two Class 116 Suburban DMU cars, 53839 & 53842. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 28th October 1990

M53518, M53500 and 53464 (right - left) at Vic Berrys, Leicester, 28-10-90 Kevin Dowd.

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