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Vehicle 56177 / 54177

Class 104

Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30297
Diagram: 585

Allocations

The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 50534 during the unknown period are:

3w/e 19/04/58	New to	5D (Cockshute)
4w/e 01/07/61	Transferred to	21F (Ryecroft)
Sep-63	Depot code change	2G
08/08/64	Transferred to	6G (Llandudno Junction)
3w/e 02/10/65	Transferred to	9D (Newton Heath)
4w/e 06/11/65	Transferred to	9A (Longsight)

Then the allocations for 56177 are:

May-80	Transferred to	NH (Newton Heath)
circa Feb-82	Transferred to	BY (Bletchley)
15/03/87	Transferred to	NH (Newton Heath)
23/03/88	Withdrawn from	NH (Newton Heath)

Notes

3rd March 1988 - Seen condemned at Newton Heath
22nd March 1988 - Condemned cars 51308, 51324, 51309, 59171, 53123, 53819, 53108, 59119, 54177, 53456, 59541, 59568, 59374, 59560, 59552 & 59524 hauled from Newton Heath to Vic Berry's yard by Class 31
5th June 1988 - Seen in Vic Berry's yard
26th June 1988 - Seen in Upperton Road Yard (Leicester)
16th July 1988 - Listed at Vic Berry's yard and possibly cut up

The vehicle carried the following numbers:

56177 - original number
54177 - from Mar-83 (53xxx / 54xxx change)

Disposal

Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	50534	56177	As delivered to 5D - 3w/e 19/04/58
	50534	56177	Noted 23/11/69 - at Manchester Piccadilly¹
LT304	50534	56177	Listed at Longsight - circa Dec-69
LT304	50534	56177	Listed at 9A - circa Jul-70
	50534	56177	Noted 04/06/71 - at Manchester Piccadilly¹
	50534	56177	Noted 07/09/73 - at Stockport²
	50534	56177	Noted 17/04/74 - at Stalybridge¹
	50534	56177	Noted 28/08/75 - on Longsight depot²
	50534	56177	Noted 10/04/76 - in Manchester Piccadilly¹
	50534	56177	Noted 26/06/76 - on 12.00 Manchester Pic - Marple³
	50534	56177	Noted 17/07/76 - in Manchester Piccadilly¹
	50534	56177	Noted circa 11/1981⁴
	53534	54177	Noted circa 07/1983⁴
	53534	54177	Noted 26/05/84 - at Norwich with 53658 +59306 + 53699 on 09:15 Birmingham New St – Gt Yarmouth²
	53534	54177	Noted 21/07/84 - at Norwich - possibly on loan to Tyseley²
	53534	54177	Noted 17/08/1985 - at Bletchley⁵
	53534	54177	Noted 05/09/85
	53534	54177	Noted 22/03/86 - on 19.35 Bletchley – Bedford³
	53534	54177	Noted circa 04/1986⁴
	53534	54177	Noted 28/06/86 - on 06.00 Bedford - Bletchley³
	53534	54177	Noted circa 08/1986⁴
	53534	54177	Noted 21/11/86 - at Watford Junction²
	53976	54177	Noted circa 02/1987⁴
	53443	54177	Listed at NH - 1st January 1988

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Phil Shatford
4: Eddie Knorn
5: Robert Chilton

Images:

October 1963

A BRC&W driver trailer set departs from Sutton Park in October 1963. M56177 leads, presumably with long-term (and original) partner M50534. "2G" is painted on the bufferbeam the code for Ryecroft depot, a new code issued the previous month replacing 21F. Another recent change was the moving of the electrification warning flash from the lower cab to the window (instruction issued in September 1962). Note the roof colour, a much lighter colour than the cab dome. This image appeared in the 1970 DMU ABC. Michael Mensing.

10th June 1982

Bedford St Johns was once on the Oxford to Cambridge line. By 10 June 1982 it was clearly underused and hardly providing a service to passengers, being a distance from the town centre. Two years later, passenger services from Bletchley were diverted to Bedford Midland permitting interchange with the Midland Main Line. The BRCW class 104 dmu is formed 56177/50534. Jeremy Chapter.

16th February 1985

54177 leaving Leicester on the 16th February 1985 hauled by 25 032 after failing at Birmingham on a Norwich service. Dennis Taylor.

5th September 1985

A 2 car Birmingham RCW Class 104, 54177 leading 53534, saunters out of Wellingborough on an autumn evening. Spotters on this Bletchley to Kettering service are just putting 58027, recessed on the Tarmac empties, into their notebooks. Taken on September 5, 1985 Mike Dean.

18th April 1986

54177 Class 104 is seen in all over blue livery at Tyseley on 18.04.1986. Andy Cole.

22nd April 1988

BRCW Class 104 DTSL M54177 looks in good condition, bodywise, as it, awaits its fate in Vic Berry's scrapyard, Leicester. 22nd April 1988. Paul James.

28th April 1988

Class 104 vehicle 54177 is seen at Vic Berry's scrapyard in Leicester on the 28th April 1988. Dennis Taylor.

mid-1988

M54177 awaits it's fate at Vic Berry's, Leicester, in mid-1988. Ian Francis.

mid-1988

Class 104 54177 sits beside an unknown sandite vehicle in Vic Berry's scrapyard sometime in 1988. Malcolm Clements.

The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: 3rd March 1962

On March 3rd 1962 a BRC&W set (DMBS M50534 and presumably DTC M56177) and Met-Camm set are seen at Stechford working the 12.50pm Birmingham New Street - Coventry service. The vehicles would be allocated to Ryecroft depot at this time. Michael Mensing.

Date: 13th May 1981

With the token exchange underway, Ormskirk services were passing at Rufford at tea-time on May 13th 1981. Cravens Class 105 Power-Twin formed of cars M50804 & M50765 were working a Preston to Ormskirk service whilst Class 104 M50534 & M56177 was heading in the opposite direction with an Ormskirk to Preston service. These were the days when additional services ran at the morning and evening peak and necessitated the use of the passing loop at Rufford. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 10th June 1982

M50534 and M56177 stand at Bedford St Johns after their trip from Bletchley on 10 June 1982. Services were diverted to Bedford Midland in 1984. Both cars were built by BRCW and were new to Stoke depot in April 1958. Jeremy Chapter.

Date: 5th June 1988

The end is nigh for ex Tyseley Class 116 DMBS M53077 as the front half of the body rests on the ground alongside an empty skip in Vic Berry's Yard, Leicester on Sunday 5th June 1988. The rear portion of DMBS M53077 is visible on the ground looking through the drivers window. The blue DMU coach on the left of the image, Class 104 DTCL M54177, is interesting as most publications have her scrapped in March 1988 whereas she obviously was still complete in June of that year. Bob Woolnough.

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