Vehicle 59165
Class 104
Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30295
Diagram: 582
Allocations
The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 50457 during the unknown period are:
| Nov-57 | New to | 5D (Cockshute) | |
| 3w/e 30/04/66 | Transferred to | 9A (Longsight) | |
| 4w/e 04/02/67 | Transferred to | 9D (Newton Heath) |
Then the allocations for 59165 are:
| 4w/e 30/11/68 | Transferred to | 16C (Derby Etches Park) | |
| May-73 | Depot code change | DY | |
| w/e 11/01/75 | Transferred to | TS (Tyseley) | |
| w/e 24/04/76 | Transferred to | NH (Newton Heath) | |
| May-80 | Transferred to | LO (Longsight) | |
| 22/11/82 | Withdrawn from | LO (Longsight) |
Disposal
Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50457 | 59165 | 50509 | As delivered to 5D - November 1957 | ||||||
| 50448 | 59165 | 50502 | Noted 14/04/69 - in Derby1 | ||||||
| 50448 | 59165 | 50502 | Noted 18/04/69 - in Derby1 | ||||||
| EP475 | 50448 | 59165 | 50502 | Noted circa Jun-69 | |||||
| 50449 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 30/05/70 - at Peterborough1 | ||||||
| 50499 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 15/08/70 - at Crewe2 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 03/08/1971 - at Nottingham3 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 02/10/1971 - at Derby4 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 31/10/71 - at Crewe1 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 30/04/72 - at Derby1 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 18/08/1972 - at Derby3 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Transfer to TS - w/e 11/01/75 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 23/08/75 - on Tyseley depot2 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 22/11/1975 - RCTS Reunion Railtour 50325-59118-50307 + 50498-59165-50446 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 13/03/1976 - at Solihull on 10:58 from Birmingham Moor Street3 | ||||||
| 50446 | 59165 | 50498 | Noted 27/03/1976 - at Solihull3 | ||||||
| 50457 | 59165 | 50509 | Noted 10/09/76 - on Newton Heath depot2 | ||||||
| 50457 | 59165 | 50509 | Noted circa 02/19835 |
Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Peter Wallwork
4: Jeremy Goodyear
5: Eddie Knorn
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The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: 29th June 1972
Set number: EP490
A rare visitor to South Wales, this Derby-based Class 104 unit (M50498 + M59165 + M50446) with what appeared to be an empty stock working though Newport on 29th June 1972. It had previously worked a Derby – Cardiff special. Note the EP490 (Etches Park) set number in the cab window. Jim Sparks.
Date: 17th December 1975
A blurry image, but added as a rare shot of a BRCW Class 104 (M50498 + M59165 + M50446) at Reading on 17/12/75. The vehicles were allocated to Tyseley at the time. Bob Gregory.