Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30295
Diagram: 582
The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 50465 during the unknown period are:
| 4w/e 28/12/57 | New to | 5B (Crewe South) | |
| Apr-63 | Transferred to | 5D (Cockshute) | |
| 3w/e 30/04/66 | Transferred to | 9A (Longsight) | |
| 4w/e 04/02/67 | Transferred to | 9D (Newton Heath) |
Then the allocations for 59173 are:
| 13/09/81 | Withdrawn from | NH (Newton Heath) |
Scrapped by A King, Snailwell
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | As delivered to 5B - 4w/e 28/12/57 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 20/07/68 - in Newton Heaton depot1 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 12/09/71 - at Wigan Wallgate1 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 08/06/72 - in Manchester Victoria1 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | Noted 24/03/73 - at Newton Heath2 | |||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted circa 05/1973 - listed at Bletchley on loan3 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 28/08/75 - on Newton Heath depot4 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 22/01/76 - at Derby Litchurch Lane2 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 10/04/76 - in Manchester Victoria1 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 15/04/77 - on 1415 Manchester V-Blackpool N | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 04/09/77 - in Manchester Victoria2 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 13/11/77 - at Doncaster2 | ||||||
| 50450 | 59173 | 50465 | Noted 06/01/19785 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 12/03/78 - at Newton Heath2 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 28/05/1978 - Worked 09.15 Manchester Vic - Llandudno with 507770 - 50803. At Chester, this train combined with the 09.40 Lime Street to Llandudno : 51858 - 59718 - 59720 - 51860.3 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 03/06/78 - at Preston2 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 09/07/78 - at Newton Heath2 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 25/07/79 - on 17:20 Southport - Bolton6 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 03/08/79 | ||||||
| 50465 | 59173 | 50517 | Noted 19/08/79 - at Red Bank CS2 |
Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Martin Lumley
3: Eddie Knorn
4: Gerald Brown
5: Peter Wallwork
6: Phil Shatford
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Blackpool North was a frequent haunt for Class 104s. In the station when this shot was taken on the 3rd August 1979 were 50524 + 59183 + 50475, 50504 + 59160 + 50452, 50477 + 59185 + 50529 and 50517 + 59173 + 50465. Robert Frise.
The Lea Valley Railway Club Blackpool Pullman railtour in Preston station on 4 October 1980. The passengers had travelled from Euston on electric-hauled Pullman coaches, then transferred to the DMU at Preston which left at 10:40 for Blackpool South. The Six Bells Junction website lists the vehicles as 50517 + 59173 + 50465 and 50518 + 59174 + 50466, and a first class stripe is on the closest vehicle it is presumed to be 50517. Derek Hoskins.