Vehicle 51085
Class 119
Builder: GRC&W
Layout: Cross Country
Length: 64ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: BR Standard
Engines: AEC 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30422
Diagram: 541
Allocations
| 4w/e 29/11/58 | New to | 86C (Cardiff Canton) | |
| Jan-61 | Depot code change | 88A | |
| 30/07/62 | Transferred to | 84E (Tyseley) | |
| 01/01/63 | Boundary change | 84E | transferred from WR to LMR stock |
| Sep-63 | Depot code change | 2A | |
| 2w/e 17/03/67 | Transferred to | 6A (Chester) | |
| 06/05/73 | Depot code change | CH | |
| w/e 22/10/77 | Transferred to | CF (Cardiff Canton) | |
| w/e 03/05/80 | Transferred to | LA (Laira) | |
| 3w/e 15/11/80 | Transferred to | CF (Cardiff Canton) | |
| 16/05/82 | Transferred to | RG (Reading) | |
| 06/07/87 | Stored U. | ||
| p/e 02/08/87 | Withdrawn from | Su |
Modifications
3w/e 17/12/77 - Leyland engines fitted
Disposal
Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| CDF534 | 51057 | 59414 | 51085 | Listed at CDF - circa Sep-60 | |||||
| 51074 | 59433 | 51085 | Noted Aug-68 - at Shrewsbury1 | ||||||
| 51057 | 59416 | 51085 | Noted 22/05/71 - at Wolverhampton2 | ||||||
| 51072 | 59414 | 51085 | Noted 19/09/71 - on Chester depot2 | ||||||
| 51072 | 59418 | 51085 | Noted 04/09/74 - at Wrexham1 | ||||||
| CR555 | 51072 | 59418 | 51085 | Noted 02/07/1975 - at Wolverhampton3 | |||||
| 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 01/05/76 - on 09.30 Wolverhampton – Shrewsbury4 | ||||||
| CR555 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 31/07/76 - at Shrewsbury, set number only on 510721 | |||||
| 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 13/04/1977 - Chester5 | ||||||
| CR555 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 13/09/77 - at Shrewsbury, set number only on 510721 | |||||
| C593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Listed at CF - 31st December 1977 | |||||
| C593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 12/04/1979 - at Cardiff Central Station6 | |||||
| C593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 16/04/1979 - At Llanelli Station6 | |||||
| 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 11/12/79 - on 05:50 Whitland - Pembroke Dock and 06:58 Pembroke Dock - Whitland4 | ||||||
| C593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Listed at CF - 03/03/80 | |||||
| 593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Transfer to LA - w/e 03/05/80 | |||||
| 593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Transfer to CF - 3w/e 15/11/80 | |||||
| L593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Listed at RG - 15/12/1982 | |||||
| L593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted circa 11/19845 | |||||
| L593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Listed at RG - 01/01/85 | |||||
| L593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted circa 02/19865 | |||||
| L593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Listed at Reading - Summer 1986 | |||||
| L593 | 51072 | 59431 | 51085 | Noted 31/01/19875 |
Formation Sources
1: Gerald Brown
2: Leonard Rogers
3: Peter Wallwork
4: Phil Shatford
5: Eddie Knorn
6: Shayne Lewis
Images:
summer 1964
Set number: 503
Two GRC&W Cross-Country DMUs are seen at Solihull in late August / early September 1964. Leading is 51085 with Worcester Shrub Hill on the destination blind. The rear set has recently been repainted and lacks the word Buffet on the centre car which the front set has. Michael Mensing.
2nd February 1975
M51085 leads a Class 119 into Shifnal station with the 12:38 Wolverhampton - Chester service on 2 February 1975. Michael Mensing.
13th September 1979
Set number: L593
This seems to the DMS from L593 - so probably 51085 - on stands in Swindon Works on the 13th September 1979. Steve Davies Collection.
circa 1981
Set number: C593
Class 119 set C593 (presumably 51085 + 59431 + 51072) in Weston-Super-Mare in the early 1980s; it was a Cardiff set from November 1980 to May 1982. Graeme Phillips Collection.
Unknown date
Set number: L593
At the old un-rebuilt Guildford class 119 set L593 with car 51085 leading, presumably with 59431 + 51072. Ian Buck.
2nd April 1983
Set number: L593
Class 119 DMU set L593 (presumably 51085 + 59431 + 51072) seen east of Didcot on 2 April 1983. Stuart Mackay Collection.
22nd March 1984
Set number: L593
Class 119 set L593 (51085 and presumably 59431 + 51072) narriving at Deepdene on 22nd March 1984. Ian Buck.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: 2nd February 1975
The 12:38 Wolverhampton - Chester service exits Shifnal station on 2 February 1975 formed of a Class 119 DMU. The far car is M51085, closest is presumably M51072. Michael Mensing.
Date: 28th June 1978
Set number: C593
Class 119 DMU set C593 (presumably 51072 + 59431 + 51085) is seen passing Chetnole with the 14:30 Weymouth - Westbury - Bristol service on 28 June 1978. Michael Mensing.
Date: 23rd August 1980
Set number: C593
Class 119 set C593 (presumably 51072 + 59431 + 51085) is seen on the overcast afternoon of Saturday August 23rd 1980 in Par station. A recent transfer from Cardiff to Laira, it is between local services on the Newquay branch. Gerard Fletcher.
Date: unknown
Set number: L593
Class 119 car 51072 leads set L593 (presumably with 59431 + 51085) into Tonbridge. Set L580 is on the left. Ian Buck.
Date: 1984
Set number: L593
The cross-country route from Tonbridge to Reading was dominated by three car Gloucester class 119 DMUs in the 1980s. Unit L593 (presumably formed 51072 + 59431 + 51085) here enters Dorking's Deepdene station with a Reading train in 1984. Ian Docwra.
Date: circa April 1986
Set number: L584
Class 119 DMU set L584 arriving at Paddington, slide process date April 1986. Closest is DMBC W51085 which was a recent addition to the set replacing 51070 which was withdrawn that month, and in the set number the 4 is a sticker over the 5 altering its previous formation of L585. The other two vehicles are presumably 59429 and 51098. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 29th September 1990
Set number: L593
One of the Class 119 power cars from L593 (51072 or 51085) hides behind ex-CIE 201 Class no. 221 at Berry's yard in Leicester on 29 September 1990. Lewis Bevan.