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Vehicle 51941

Class 108

Builder: BR Derby Works
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30601
Diagram: 634

Allocations

26/11/60	New to	26A (Newton Heath)
4w/e 31/12/60	Transferred to	8H (Allerton)
Feb-61	Transferred to	26A (Newton Heath)
Sep-63	Depot code change	9D
2w/e 11/10/69	Transferred to	8J (Allerton)
4w/e 31/12/72	Transferred to	9D (Newton Heath)
May-73	Depot code change	NH
27/04/86	Transferred to	BX (Buxton)
10/05/87	Transferred to	TS (Tyseley)	- was this cancelled? Image 6921 shows it being moved to TS with 51941 also transferred the same day, but it remained listed at Buxton with no return move found.
by end Aug-87	Transferred to	BX (Buxton)	- no details found for this
19/03/89	Transferred to	CH (Chester) PMSX
30/09/90	Transferred to	TS (Tyseley) PTSX
p/e 13/10/90	Sector Change to	TS (Tyseley) PXXZ
20/11/90	Withdrawn from	TS (Tyseley) PXXZ

Notes

29/03/91 - 51941 + 52064 arrived at the Severn Valley Railway. They were a replacement for 53454 + 53528 which were originally destined for the line but were found to contain asbestos between the underframe and floor. The 108 set, T068, was made available instead after a proposed sale to Balfour Beatty for a Channel Tunnel inspection unit was cancelled.

Refurbished

At Swindon Works dated 18/06/1982 released in blue/grey livery

51941 was involved in the following incident:

circa 1970 - Unknown, LMR

Collision involving Class 108

Class 108 DMBS M51921 was withdrawn for an unknown reason in October 1970.

Sanding down the drivers side of DMBS 51941 during a repaint in 2002 the first blue livery had the correct number. However further sanding revealed another set of white vinyl numbers but these comprised 51921. Further sanding found green paint next, again with 51921, and then another green layer with 51921.

It appears the drivers side was rebuilt using parts from 51921 - possibly much of the bodyside. On the bufferbeam of 51941 there were two large welds on the inside of the drivers-side buffers. Further sanding of the bodyside revealed that there had been extensive replacement of lower panels on the drivers side (there was only blue paint - no green underneath). It also carried a builders plate for lot 30660 (a DMC) on that side.

It may be that the two vehicles were in a sideswipe together and one good vehicle made from two? Any further information would be welcome.

Disposal

Preserved - more details.

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	51941	52056		As delivered to 26A - 26th November 1960
	51941	52056		Transfer to 8H - 4w/e 31/12/60
	51941	52056		Transfer to 26A - 4w/e 04/03/61
	51941	52056		Noted 20/12/66 - at Leeds City¹
	51941	52063		Noted 20/07/68 - at Preston¹
	51941	52056		Noted 14/04/69 - in Derby¹
	51941	52056		Noted 10/04/76 - in Manchester Victoria¹
	51941	52056		Noted 29/06/80 - between Morecombe Carnforth Lancaster area²
	51941	52056		Noted circa 08/1981³
	51941	52056		Noted 19/07/1982 - Manchester Victoria³
	51941	52056		Noted circa 10/1982³
	51941	52056		Noted circa 12/1982³
	51941	59187	52056	Formation change - BX - 2w/e 14/05/86
	51941	59187	52056	Noted 25/05/86 - on 08:48 Stoke - Llandudno with 53316 + 59306 + 53334 / 51938 + 59386 + 52039⁴
	51941	59187	52056	Listed at Buxton - Summer 1986
	51941	59230	52056	Formation change - BX - circa Dec-86
	51941	59230	52056	Noted circa 02/1987³
	51941	59388	52064	Listed at BX - mid Nov-87
	51941	59388	52064	Noted circa 01/1988³
BX376	51941	59388	52064	Listed at BX - May 1988
	51941	59388	52064	Noted 21/05/88 - at Norwich with 51948 + 59389 + 52050 (BX379) working the Manchester – Gt. Yarmouth service⁵
	51941	59388	52064	Noted circa Jul-88
CH376	51941	59183	52064	Noted 23rd April 1989
CH376	51941	59183	52064	Noted 13/05/89
	51941	59183	52064	Noted 31/05/89⁶
CH376	51941	59183	52064	Noted 20/08/1989 - Special train Blaenau Ffestiniog - Maentwrog Road (Trawsfynydd)
CH626	51941	52064		Listed at CH - 14/10/89
CH626	51941	52064		Listed at CH - mid May-90
CH626	51941	52064		Noted circa 07/1990³
T068	51941	52064		Noted circa 10/1990³
T068	51941	52064		Noted 23/03/1991 - At Doncaster.⁷

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Shayne Lewis
3: Eddie Knorn
4: Martin Baumann
5: Gerald Brown
6: Graeme Phillips
7: Dave Warby

Images:

Class 108 DMU at Pages Crossing, Ulnes Walton

5th September 1979

A late Summer scene on the Preston to Ormskirk line, as a two-car Class 108 with DMBS M51941 leading, accelerates away from the token exchange at Midge Hall whilst working a Preston to Ormskirk service on September 5th 1979. The former crossing keepers cottage is on the right of the unit, the building being set back as the route was once double track in the days before the line was severed at Ormskirk and services ran to and from Liverpool Exchange. The landscape here is dominated by Globe Mill an animal feed plant located adjacent to the signalbox and level crossing at Midge Hall. Martyn Hilbert.

5th September 1979

Viewed through the blackened stone arch of the B5247 Bretherton Road bridge, a two-car Class 108 DMU with DMBS M51941 trailing, accelerates away from Croston with an Ormskirk to Preston service on September 5th 1979. The surviving single line along this route was once the Down (Northbound) track when the route was a double track mainline. Clearly visible here, the formation is slewed across to follow the former Up line in order to serve the remaining platform at Croston station. Its difficult to image now that non-stop Glasgow to Liverpool Exchange services once hurtled through Croston at 60-70 mph. Martyn Hilbert.

23rd July 1985

Having just collected the single line token (the hoop & pouch visible in the cab window), Class 108 Driving Motor Brake Second (DMBS) M51941 was accelerating away from Midge Hall with a Preston to Ormskirk service on July 23rd 1985. The home signal that protects the level crossing in the Down direction, is the last remaining semaphore in the Preston area. Until 1983, the section between Farington Curve Junction on the WCML and Midge Hall was double track, and the pointwork where the former Up line became single track is located between the two cars of the unit. Martyn Hilbert.

10th October 1985

Class 108 51941 faces Class 110 51823 at Leeds on 10/10/85. Malcolm Clements.

6th September 1987

Class 108s at Buxton on 6/9/87 including DMBS M51941 on the right. Stuart Mackay Collection.

1989

Set number: CH376

Class 108 set CH376 (presumably 51941 + 59183 + 52064) at Plumley in 1989. John Law.

4th November 1989

Set number: CH626

Class 108 set CH626 (51941 + 52064) is seen in Wrexham Central on November 4, 1989. Stuart Mackay Collection.

The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: 12th May 1987

45141 hauls a rake of DMU's (including 51927 & 51941) from Tyseley past Saltley, 12.05.1987. Andy Cole.

Date: 14th May 1988

A 3-car Buxton allocated Derby built Class 108 DMU comprising of M52064, M59388 and M51941 pulls into Chapel-en-le-Frith with a Manchester Piccadilly - Buxton working on the 14th May 1988. Andrew J Crowther.

Date: 13th May 1989

Set number: CH376

CH376 (M52064 + M59183 + M51941) approach New Mills Newtown on the 08:22 Buxton to Piccadilly, 13-5-89. The two power cars were preserved on the Severn Valley Railway, and the center car is one of the few Class 104 cars to be painted blue/grey. Kevin Dowd.

Date: 14th May 1989

Set number: CH376

CH376 (M52064 + M59183 + M51941) with CH372 (M52056 + M59148 + M53930) at Buxton on 14-5-89, the day before Sprinterisation of The Spa Line. 37 411 is on the TMD. Kevin Dowd.

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