Vehicle 59187
Class 104
Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30295
Diagram: 582
Allocations
The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 50479 during the unknown period are:
| 4w/e 22/03/58 | New to | 5B (Crewe South) | |
| Apr-58 | Transferred to | 18A (Toton) | |
| 4w/e 29/12/62 | Transferred to | 17A (Derby Etches Park) | |
| Sep-63 | Depot code change | 16C | |
| 11/09/65 | Transferred to | 9D (Newton Heath) |
Then the allocations for 59187 are:
| 2w/e 15/05/82 | Transferred to | BX (Buxton) | |
| circa Sep-82 | Transferred to | NH (Newton Heath) | |
| Mar-83 | Transferred to | BX (Buxton) | |
| 19/03/89 | Transferred to | CH (Chester) PMSX | |
| 05/05/89 | Withdrawn from | CH (Chester) PCHX | |
| Aug-89 | Reinstated | NH (Newton Heath) | - or transferred to NH rather than W from CH? |
| Feb-90 | Withdrawn from | NH (Newton Heath) |
Notes
1st July 1989 - Listed as withdrawn at Newton Heath depot
9th July 1989 - Seen out of service at Newton Heath depot
12th October 1990 - Listed as condemned and thought to be at Crewe Basford Hall Yard
Disposal
Scrapped by Mayer Parry, Snailwell
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | As delivered to 5B - 4w/e 22/03/58 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 1st June 1958 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 20/07/68 - in Manchester Victoria1 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 04/06/71 - at Manchester Victoria1 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 26/10/71 - in Manchester Victoria2 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 08/06/72 - in Manchester Victoria1 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 19/04/73 - on Newton Heath depot2 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 08/02/1976 - at Preston3 | ||||||
| 50479 | 59187 | 50531 | Noted 10/09/76 - on Newton Heath depot2 | ||||||
| BX491 | 50439 | 59187 | 50425 | Noted circa 05/19824 | |||||
| 50439 | 59187 | 50425 | Noted 19/07/1982 - Manchester Victoria4 | ||||||
| 50439 | 59187 | 50425 | Noted circa 10/19824 | ||||||
| 50439 | 59187 | 50425 | Noted 13/10/1982 - Worked 07.51 Blackburn to Manchester Victoria4 | ||||||
| 50439 | 59187 | 50425 | Noted circa 12/19824 | ||||||
| BX483 | 53430 | 59187 | 53491 | Noted circa 07/19844 | |||||
| BX483 | 53430 | 59187 | 53491 | Noted circa 11/1984 - listed at BX4 | |||||
| BX483 | 53430 | 59187 | 53491 | Listed at BX - circa Jul-85 | |||||
| BX483 | 53430 | 59187 | 53491 | Listed at BX - circa Dec-85 | |||||
| 51941 | 59187 | 52056 | Formation change - BX - 2w/e 14/05/86 | ||||||
| 51941 | 59187 | 52056 | Noted 25/05/86 - on 08:48 Stoke - Llandudno with 53316 + 59306 + 53334 / 51938 + 59386 + 520395 | ||||||
| 51941 | 59187 | 52056 | Listed at Buxton - Summer 1986 | ||||||
| 51947 | 59187 | 51565 | Formation change - BX - circa Dec-86 | ||||||
| 51948 | 59187 | 53634 | Listed at BX - Jun-87 | ||||||
| BX491 | 51948 | 59187 | 53634 | Noted 09/07/19874 | |||||
| 51948 | 59187 | 53634 | Listed at BX - mid Nov-87 | ||||||
| BX380 | 51947 | 59187 | 53634 | Noted circa 04/19884 | |||||
| BX380 | 51947 | 59187 | 53634 | Listed at BX - May 1988 | |||||
| 51947 | 59187 | 53634 | Noted 10/07/88 - on 11:00 Manchester Piccadilly-Macclesfield, 12:03 Macclesfield-Manchester Piccadilly and 14:03 Macclesfield-Manchester Piccadilly | ||||||
| CH380 | 51947 | 59187 | 53634 | Noted 5th May 1989 | |||||
| N669 | 53454 | 59187 | 53528 | Noted 6th May 1989 - Buxton 104 Farewell run | |||||
| N669 | 53454 | 59187 | 53528 | Noted 26th May 1989 | |||||
| N669 | 53454 | 59187 | 53528 | Noted 27th May 1989 - on 13:53 Llandudno - Manchester Victoria | |||||
| NL551 | 51175 | 59187 | 51184 | Listed at NL - 05/09/89 | |||||
| 51194 | 59187 | 51538 | Noted 02/10/89 - on 15:07 Leeds - Goole6 | ||||||
| 51175 | 59187 | 51191 | Noted 4th December 1989 - on Manchester Victoria - Rochdale loop services |
Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Peter Wallwork
4: Eddie Knorn
5: Martin Baumann
6: Graeme Phillips
Images:
7th May 1991
Class 104 centre car M59187 at Snailwell on 7th May 1991. Nicholas Youngman.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: 19th April 1984
An EMU and DMU line-up at Manchester Piccadilly on 19 April 1984. Right to left are Class 123 E52096 (with E59824 + E59773 + E52089), Class 104 M53450 (with M59187 + M53491), the single-engined Class 104 M78601 (with M78851) and a Class 506 EMU. Keith Long.
Date: 7th September 1984
Set number: BX483
Three-car Class 104 DMU set BX483 (presumably 53430 + 59187 + 53491) approaches Whaley Bridge station with a Buxton to Manchester service on 7 September 1984. Andrew Walker.
Date: 7th September 1984
Set number: BX483
Three-car Class 104 DMU set BX483 (presumably 53491 + 59187 + 53430) departs Whaley Bridge station on a Manchester service on 7 September 1984. Andrew Walker.
Date: 24th January 1985
On a cold and snowy day Buxton based BRC&W class 104 3 car dmu M53430, M59187, M53491, is seen in its home town waiting to take out the next service to Manchester Piccadilly. 24th January 1985. Andrew J Crowther.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
Heading down the gradient between Disley and Middlewood on 6th May 1989 is a BRC&W Newton Heath allocated 3 car set N669 (53528, 59187, 53454), with the 104 DMUPG "Buxton 104 Farewell" on a special Buxton-Manchester Piccadilly non stop run. By this time the 104's had been displaced by 108's which in turn were being displaced by the new Sprinters, so this might well have been the last visit of a 104 to Buxton. Andrew J Crowther.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
Passing through the village of Furness Vale is BRC&W Newton Heath allocated 3 car set N669 (53454, 59187, 53528), with the 104 DMUPG "Buxton 104 Farewell" on a special Manchester Piccadilly-Buxton non stop run on 6th May 1989. Andrew J Crowther.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
53454 + 59187 + 53528 at Buxton. on the 6th May 1989. Andrew J Crowther.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (53454 + 59187 + 53528) arrive at Buxton with the 104 DMUPG "Buxton 104 Farewell" which had just worked in non stop from Manchester Piccadilly on 6th May 1989. Andrew J Crowther.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53528+M59187+M53454) running into Manchester Piccadilly as 5T41 ex-Longsight. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53454 + M59187 + M53528) running into Manchester Piccadilly as 5T41 ex-Longsight. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53454+M59187+M53528) at Manchester Piccadilly having arrived ex-Longsight to work 2T41, the 13:08 to Buxton on 6/5/89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: CH373
Class 108 set CH373 (M53932 + M59207 + M51569) is on 2H07, the 14:07 to Manchester Piccadilly, while N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) waits to return to Piccadilly at 14:34 on 2T42, 6/5/89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) waits at Buxton to return to Piccadilly on the 14:34 (2T42) on 6/5/89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 6th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) awaiting to depart Buxton on the 14:34 to Manchester Piccadilly, 6/5/89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) on 2M41, the 14:49 Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly at Romiley on 10-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53454 + M59187 + M53528) departing from Romiley on 2M41, the 14:49 Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly on 10-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) passes through Romiley on 5H68, the 17:23 Marple to Manchester Piccadilly on 10-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
Class 104 Set N669 (M53454 + M59187 + M53528) arrives at Romiley on 2H68, the 16:49 Manchester Piccadilly to Marple on 10-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
Set N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) at Romiley on 2H68, the 16:49 Manchester Piccadilly to Marple on 10-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
Set N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) departing Romiley on 2H69, the 18:43 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly, 10-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
Class 104 set N669 (formed of M53454 + M59187 + M53528) arrives at New Mills Central on 10-5-89. Stuart Broome.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) waiting to depart New Mills Central with 2H69, the 18:43 to Manchester Piccadilly on 10-5-89. Stuart Broome.
Date: 10th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 (M53528 + M59187 + M53454) seen at Hague Bar on 10/5/89, working 2H69, the 18:43 New Mills Central to Manchester Piccadilly. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 11th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 M53528 + M59187 + M53454 arrive at New Mills Central on 2M39, the 12:42 Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly, 11-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 12th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 M53528 + M59187 + M53454 arrive at Whaley Bridge on the 09:08 Buxton to Manchester Piccadilly, 12-5-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 12th May 1989
Set number: N669
N669 53454(Nearest, rear vehicle)+ M59187 + M53528 depart Whaley Bridge on the 09:08 Buxton to Manchester Piccadilly on 12/5/87. Note Royal Mail bags being thrown from 57217. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 20th May 1989
Set number: N669
53454 + 59187 + 53528 wait in Llandudno station with the 13:36 to Llandudno Junction. The six blue-grey vehicles behind will form a subsequent departure, and there's a Tyseley suburban set on the left. Lewis Bevan.
Date: July 1989
This is a mixed-livery Class 101 DMBS 51175 / Class 104 TSL 59187 / Class 101 DMBS 51191 hybrid seen at Greenholme in July 1989. George Woods.