Vehicle 50512 / 53512
Class 104
Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30294
Diagram: 558
Allocations
| 4w/e 30/11/57 | New to | 5D (Cockshute) | |
| 3w/e 30/04/66 | Transferred to | 9A (Longsight) | |
| 4w/e 04/02/67 | Transferred to | 9D (Newton Heath) | |
| May-73 | Depot code change | NH | |
| 14/05/89 | Transferred to | CH (Chester) PCHX | |
| 14/05/90 | Sector Change to | CH (Chester) PXXZ | |
| 11/06/90 | Withdrawn from | CH (Chester) PZQZ |
Notes
1st January 1988 - Has window bars
30th April 1990 - Seen stored out of use at Chester depot
12th October 1990 - Listed as condemned at Chester depot
22/04/91 - withdrawn vehicles noted at Chester: 53431, 53442, 53494, 53512, 53516, 53517, 53534, 53536, 59065, 59137, 59525; also soon to be W SC59049 and SC59074
The vehicle carried the following numbers:
50512 - original number
53512 - from 1983 (53xxx / 54xxx change)
Modifications
Dec-71 - Friction Control Springs Removed
circa early 1975 - AWS fitted
Disposal
Scrapped by Mayer Parry, Snailwell
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | As delivered to 5D - 4w/e 30/11/57 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59167 | 50512 | Noted 20/07/68 - at Preston and Manchester1 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 28/08/75 - on Newton Heath depot2 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 17/07/76 - in Manchester Victoria1 | ||||||
| NH466 | 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted circa 05/19823 | |||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted circa 10/19823 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 13/10/1982 - Worked 07.59 Preston to Manchester Vic3 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 08/04/19833 | ||||||
| 50460 | 50512 | Noted 20/04/19833 | |||||||
| 53460 | 53512 | Listed at Newton Heath - Summer 1986 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Noted 01/11/19863 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Formation change - NH - circa Dec-86 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Noted 10/01/87 - on 11:40 Blackpool North - Leeds with 53466 / 535114 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Listed at NH - 10/05/87 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Noted 11th October 1987 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Noted 18th November 1987 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Listed at NH - 1st January 1988 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Noted circa 01/19883 | |||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Noted 12th March 1988 | |||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Listed at NH - May-88 | ||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 17th June 1988 | ||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted circa Jul-88 | ||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Listed at NH - 16th July 1988 | ||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 6th August 1988 | ||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 15/09/88 - at Manchester Victoria working with 53934 + 54268 | ||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 12th April 1989 | ||||||
| N662 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 15th May 1989 | ||||||
| CH606 | 53431 | 53512 | Listed at CH - 1st July 1989 | ||||||
| 53431 | 53512 | Noted 09/08/895 | |||||||
| CH606 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 15th August 1989 | ||||||
| CH606 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 4th September 1989 | ||||||
| CH606 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 8th September 1989 | ||||||
| CH606 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 16th September 1989 | ||||||
| CH606 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 24th September 1989 | ||||||
| CH606 | 53431 | 53512 | Listed at CH - 14/10/89 | ||||||
| CH618 | 53431 | 53512 | Noted 18/10/89 | ||||||
| CH635 | 53934 | 53512 | Noted 4th December 1989 | ||||||
| CH635 | 53934 | 53512 | Noted 25th January 1990 |
Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Eddie Knorn
4: Martin Baumann
5: Graeme Phillips
Images:
June 1966
A BRC&W triple DMU set led by M50512 is seen at Perry Barr North Junction, Birmingham, in June 1966. Michael Mensing.
March 1973
A Blackpool white-stripe set at Newton Heath in March 1973. DMC M50512 is closest. Mel Smith.
27th October 1984
Class 104 DMU, 53512 thought to be leading, arriving Manchester Piccadilly on 27-10-84. On Tour With the Class 13 Army.
15th September 1988
Set number: N662
Class 104 53512 + 53431 with Class 108 54268 + 53934 at Manchester Victoria on 15/9/88. Rex Holt.
1st April 1989
Set number: N662
A two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53512 & M53431 (N662) was stood at the North end of platform 6 at Preston ready to work ECS back to its home depot at Newton Heath on the evening of April 1st 1989. The cars had been long-term residents of Newton Heath, but four months after this image was recorded, the set was transferred to Chester Depot and given the set number CH606. Both cars were withdrawn from service in 1990. Martyn Hilbert.
18th October 1989
Set number: CH618
CH618 (M53512 + M53431) on 2E46, the 14:40 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield at New Mills Central, 18-10-89. Kevin Dowd.
2nd December 1989
Set number: CH635
A rather tired looking Chester allocated set CH635 comprising of Class 104 53512 paired with what looks to be a Class 108 car, presumably 53934, at Manchester Victoria with a local service, 2nd December 1989. Andrew J Crowther.
11th August 1991
Set number: CH635
Class 104 M53512 at Snailwell on 11th August 1991. Nicholas Youngman.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: 3rd May 1987
Complete with a discoloured white cab roof, two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU, formed of Driving Motor Brake Second M53431 & Driving Motor Lavatory Second M53512 was stabled between duties in Croft Street Sidings adjacent to Preston Power Box on May 3rd 1987. The well-worn unit was having an extended period of operation due to the sidelining of the then ailing almost new Class 142 Pacer fleet. The unit would become a spare set at Chester Depot in November 1989 due its poor condition until it was officially withdrawn in June 1990, as new Class 150/2 Sprinters began to appear in quantity from BREL York. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: May 1988
Set number: N662
Class 104 2-car DMU Newton Heath set N662, 53431+53512, Chester depot May 1988. On Tour With The Class 13 Army.
Date: 16th July 1988
Set number: N662
Class 104 2-car DMU Newton Heath set N662, 53431 + 53512 in platform 16 of Manchester Victoria on 16th July 1988. Photograph by Dave Rutter. Waddo Rail Archive.
Date: 1st October 1988
Set number: N662
Class 104 set N662 (presumably 53431 + 53512) sits in the sidings at Southport on October 1st 1988 as 47 557 departs with vintage VSOE Pullman stock heading for Folkestone and a four-day break in Paris. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 1st October 1988
Set number: N662
With a BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53431 & M53512 (N662) stabled in the sidings, Class 150/2 150 211 was departing from Southport with a service for Manchester Victoria on October 1st 1988. 150 211 was one of the batch of 'odd' numbered 150/2's that went new to Newton Heath in 1986/87. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 4th August 1989
Set number: CH606
Class 104 DMU set CH606 (presumably 53431 + 53512) arrives into Buxton station on 4 August 1989. Brian Daniels.
Date: 24th September 1989
Set number: CH606
M53431 (left) + M53512 (right) at Chester depot on September 24, 1989. Hamish Stevenson.
Date: 24th September 1989
Set number: CH606
CH606 M53431 + M53512 take fuel on Chester Depot, 24-9-89. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 5th June 1990
Condemned Class 104 DMUs M53431, 53512 and M53517 at Chester on June 5th, 1990. Nicholas Youngman.
Date: 31st August 1990
Set number: CH259
The DTS from Class 108 set CH259 (54487) sits next to the DMS from Class 104 set CH635 (53512) and another Class 104 DMS at Chester depot at 16:35 on Friday August 31, 1990. Colin Brooks.