Vehicle 59168
Class 104
Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30295
Diagram: 582
Allocations
The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 50460 during the unknown period are:
| 4w/e 30/11/57 | New to | 5D (Cockshute) | |
| 3w/e 30/04/66 | Transferred to | 9A (Longsight) | |
| 4w/e 04/02/67 | Transferred to | 9D (Newton Heath) |
Then the allocations for 59168 are:
| 04/02/87 | Transferred to | AY (Ayr) | |
| Mar-87 | Transferred to | ED (Eastfield) | |
| 02/10/88 | Transferred to | NH (Newton Heath) | |
| 13/11/88 | Transferred to | NL (Neville Hill) PWYX | |
| p/e 07/10/89 | Sector Change to | NL (Neville Hill) PZQZ | |
| 08/12/89 | Withdrawn from | NL (Neville Hill) PZQZ |
Notes
1st January 1988 - In blue & grey livery
1st July 1989 - Listed as withdrawn
19th October 1989 - Listed as withdrawn/out of use
Modifications
Dec-71 - Friction Control Springs Removed
Disposal
Scrapped by Mayer Newman, Snailwell
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | As delivered to 5D - 4w/e 30/11/57 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 28/08/75 - on Newton Heath depot1 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 17/07/76 - in Manchester Victoria2 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50515 | Noted 03/01/1981 - At Bolton Station3 | ||||||
| NH466 | 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted circa 05/19824 | |||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted circa 10/19824 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 13/10/1982 - Worked 07.59 Preston to Manchester Vic4 | ||||||
| 51927 | 59168 | 52049 | Noted circa 04/19834 | ||||||
| 50460 | 59168 | 50512 | Noted 08/04/19834 | ||||||
| 51927 | 59168 | 52049 | Noted 20/04/19834 | ||||||
| 51927 | 59168 | 52049 | Noted 26/11/1983 - RCTS Mersey Mariner Railtour 51927-59168-52049 + 53812-53355 + 51939-52054 | ||||||
| 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Listed at Newton Heath - Summer 1986 | ||||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Listed at ED - 23/03/87 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Noted circa 04/19874 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Noted 07/05/19874 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 52059 | Noted July 1987 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Listed at ED - Jan-88 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Listed at ED - 1st January 1988 | |||||
| 432 | 51992 | 59168 | 53517 | Noted February 1988 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Noted 31st March 1988 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Noted circa 05/19884 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Listed at ED - 16th July 1988 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Listed at ED - circa August 1988 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Noted 16th August 1988 | |||||
| C852 | 51463 | 59168 | 51533 | Noted circa 11/1988 - operating from Newton Heath4 | |||||
| 565 | 51463 | 59168 | 51533 | Listed at NL - Feb-89 | |||||
| 456 | 53464 | 59168 | 53517 | Noted March 1989 | |||||
| 51809 | 59168 | 51823 | Noted circa 04/19894 |
Formation Sources
1: Gerald Brown
2: Leonard Rogers
3: Shayne Lewis
4: Eddie Knorn
Images:
12th September 1990
Class 104 TS 59168 at Snailwell on 12th September 1990. Nicholas Youngman.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: 26th November 1983
Taken onboard the RCTS 'Mersey Mariner' railtour on 26 November 1983 at Cavendish Sidings in Birkenhead, Mersey Docks & Harbour Board line, looking east. The vehicle numbers listed on the Six Bells Junction website show that this was taken from 51939 looking towards 53355 + 53812 / 52049 + 59168 + 51927. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 16th May 1986
A three-car Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53517, M59168 & M53464 was stood on the Down Fast at Leyland station with a Manchester Victoria to Blackpool North service on May 16th 1986. Unusually, the centre trailer car (M59168) was in blue/grey livery. M53517 has survived into preservation and is currently at the East Lancashire Railway. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 11th October 1986
With its centre trailer car in blue/grey, a three-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53517, M59168 & M53464 was stood on the Up Fast at Leyland station with a Blackpool North to Manchester Victoria service on October 11th 1986. Of the three individual cars, M53464 & M59168 were eventually scrapped, with M53517 surviving into preservation. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 2nd May 1987
Set number: 456
53517 with 59168 and 53464 at Eastfield depot on the 2nd May 1987. Dennis Taylor.
Date: 8th July 1987
Set number: 456
Looking north at track level as a 3 car BRC&W dmu 104456 (53464 closest, presumably with 59168 + Class 108 52059) crosses the Forth Bridge, which spans the Firth of Forth in Scotland, the bridge which links Queensferry and Inverkeithing is 8,296 feet long. 8th July 1987. Andrew J Crowther.
Date: 8th July 1987
Set number: 456
Looking south at track level as a 3 car BRC&W class 104 dmu headed by car SC53464 (presumably with 59168 + Class 108 52059) heads north across the Forth Bridge, which spans the Firth of Forth in Scotland, the bridge which links Queensferry and Inverkeithing and is 8,296 feet long. 8th July 1987. Andrew J Crowther.
Date: 22nd July 1987
Set number: 104456
The late-running 17.03 Glasgow Queen St - Dunblane about to depart Stirling at 17.52 (12 minutes late) on 22/7/87. The set is formed 52059(furthest from camera)/59168/53464. Leonard Rogers.
Date: August 1987
Set number: 456
Services restarted from Edinburgh to Bathgate in 1986 and used a variety of worn out DMUs shuttling to and from a new single platform terminus station built in the former goods yard. In August 1987 we see BRCW class 104 DMU 53464 still wearing its M prefix following its transfer from Newton Heath 6 months earlier. It is seen passing the erstwhile Haymarket Coal Yard on an Edinburgh to Bathgate working, running with blue / grey centre car 59168 and class 108 M52059. Murray Liston.
Date: August 1987
From Birmingham to Bathgate 2. Services restarted from Edinburgh to Bathgate in 1986 and used a variety of worn out DMUs shuttling to and from a new single platform terminus station built in the former goods yard. In August 1987 we see BRCW class 104 DMU 53464 still wearing its M prefix following its transfer from Newton Heath 6 months earlier. It was running with blue / grey centre car 59168. This station closed in 2010 when the through route to Airdrie was reopened and electrified and a new station constructed nearby. Murray Liston.
Date: August 1987
Set number: 456
BRCW from Bathgate. Services restarted from Edinburgh to Bathgate in 1986 and used a variety of worn out DMUs shuttling to and from a new single platform terminus station built in the former goods yard. In August 1987 we see BRCW class 104 DMU 53464 still wearing its M prefix following its transfer from Newton Heath 6 months earlier. It is seen leaving Haymarket on a Bathgate to Edinburgh working, running with blue / grey centre car 59168. Murray Liston.
Date: 13th August 1987
Set number: 456
Hybrid set 456 departs north from North Queensferry on 14 August 1987, formed of one Class 108 vehicle M52059 and two Class 104 vehicles M59168 + M53464. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 1988
Set number: 456
Class 104 unit no. 456 stands at Glasgow Queen Street, 53517 closest presumably with 59168 + 53464. The Garden Festival signage at the end of the platform dates this to 1988. Ian Docwra.
Date: 1988
Set number: 456
Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) arrives into Dunblane station while a Class 107 sits in the southbound platform. Circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.
Date: 1988
Set number: 456
Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) about to arrive into Bridge of Allan station with a southbound service circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.
Date: 1988
Set number: 456
Class 104 DMU set 456 (presumably 53464 + 59168 + 53517) in platform 3 of Stirling station circa spring 1988. Brian Ward.
Date: March 1988
Set number: 456
New and Old in Waverley. In March 1988 set 456 is seen with 53517, 59168 and 53464 at platform 15 with a Bathgate service, while a newfangled Sprinter sits on platform 17. Murray Liston.
Date: spring 1988
Set number: 456
Eastfield's BRCW set 456 (53464 + 59168 + 53517) arrives at Waverley in the spring of 1988. It seems to have drawn a crowd of young admirers in the background, a spot where I was first introduced to (green) DMUs and locos moving around here at a similar age. This long-time Manchester set came up to Scotland in 1987 but lasted less than 2 years before living out a final year of service at Newton Heath. Murray Liston.
Date: 10th June 1988
Set number: 456
53464 + 59168 + (53517), working the 17:28 Cowdenbeath - Edinburgh on June 10, 1988, pass a Class 101 centre car stabled in the east end of Haymarket depot. Hamish Stevenson.
Date: 24th August 1988
Set number: 456
53464 + 59168 + 53517 (set 456) is working with a Class 101 on the 17:10 Edinburgh - Dunblane service on August 24, 1988, seen just after departure in Princes Street Gardens. Hamish Stevenson.