Builder: Park Royal
Layout: Low-Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Lot Number: 30287
Diagram: 645
The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 50409 during the unknown period are:
Aug-58 | New to | 5B (Crewe South) | |
4w/e 29/11/58 | Transferred to | 3C (Ryecroft) | |
4w/e 27/12/58 | Transferred to | 1C (Watford) | |
Jan-59 | Transferred to | 3C (Ryecroft) | |
Jun-60 | Depot code change | 21F | |
Sep-63 | Depot code change | 2G | |
w/e 10/10/64 | Transferred to | 6A (Chester) | |
w/e 16/12/64 | Transferred to | 2G (Ryecroft) | |
w/e 07/01/67 | Transferred to | 6A (Chester) |
Then the allocations for 56164 are:
Nov-82 | Withdrawn from | CH (Chester) |
circa Jul-72 - AWS fitted
Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester
50409 | 56164 | As delivered to 5B - August 1958 | |||||||
50409 | 56164 | Noted 13th December 1958 | |||||||
CR207 | 50411 | 56164 | Noted circa Jun-69 | ||||||
50398 | 56164 | Noted 22/02/1971 - at Crewe1 | |||||||
50398 | 56164 | Noted 18/09/1971 - at Crewe2 | |||||||
50409 | 56164 | Noted 30/05/1974 - at Wolverhampton2 | |||||||
CR218 | 50409 | 56164 | Noted 04/09/74 - at Chester, 56164 displayed CR2073 | ||||||
50409 | 56164 | Noted 02/07/1975 - at Nuneaton1 | |||||||
50409 | 56164 | Noted 08/1975 - on either 16th or 23rd August 19751 | |||||||
50403 | 56164 | Noted 19/03/77 - on 1539 Bangor-Crewe with 51175 + 56335 | |||||||
50403 | 56164 | Noted 30/03/1977 - 2F73, 14.56 Helsby to Rock Ferry4 | |||||||
50398 | 56164 | Noted 28/08/1979 - at Dovey Junction1 | |||||||
50398 | 56164 | Noted 22/10/1980 - At Chester Station5 | |||||||
50398 | 56164 | Noted 24/10/1980 - At Crewe Station5 | |||||||
50398 | 56164 | Noted 25/10/1980 - At Holyhead Station5 | |||||||
50398 | 56164 | Noted circa 05/19824 |
Formation Sources
1: Peter Wallwork
2: Jeremy Goodyear
3: Gerald Brown
4: Eddie Knorn
5: Shayne Lewis
Class 101, 103 and 108 vehicles stabled in Chester depot on May 30, 1978. The 103 DTC on the right is M56164, the 108 DTC beside it has a 103 DTC behind. Rex Holt.
A Class 103 (looks like M56164 closest) and a 101 stabled outside the shed at Machynlleth on the 25th June 1982. There's another 101 to the right and a refurbished one in the shed in the distance. Image taken by John Vaughan. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Chester depot, Right to Left; Class 103 DTCL 56164, Class 108, Swindon Class 120 DMBC 50739 21-10-82. On Tour With the Class 13 Army.