Vehicle 50500 / 53500
Class 104
Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30294
Diagram: 558
Allocations
| Sep-57 | New to | 5B (Crewe South) | |
| Jan-58 | Transferred to | 5D (Cockshute) | |
| 3w/e 30/04/66 | Transferred to | 2H (Monument Lane) | |
| 2w/e 08/10/66 | Transferred to | 16C (Derby Etches Park) | |
| May-73 | Depot code change | DY | |
| 13/09/81 | Transferred to | NH (Newton Heath) | |
| circa Mar-85 | On loan to | BY (Bletchley) | |
| 19/01/86 | Ex-loan back to | NH (Newton Heath) | |
| 31/03/89 | Transferred to | CP PSPX | |
| 17/05/89 | Withdrawn from | CP |
Notes
1st January 1988 - Has window bars
19th June 1989 - Stored serviceable at Crewe Brook Sidings
1st July 1989 - Listed as spare at Chester depot
19th October 1989 - Listed as withdrawn/out of use
12th October 1990 - Listed as condemned at Derby depot
The vehicle carried the following numbers:
50500 - original number
53500 - from Jun-84 (53xxx / 54xxx change)
Modifications
Oct-86 - Window Bars Fitted
Disposal
Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50448 | 59156 | 50500 | As delivered to 5B - September 1957 | ||||||
| 50759 | 59142 | 50500 | Noted 14/04/69 - in Derby1 | ||||||
| 50450 | 59151 | 50500 | Noted 30/10/70 - at Derby1 | ||||||
| 50450 | 59151 | 50500 | Noted 06/03/1971 - at Birmingham New Street2 | ||||||
| 50450 | 59151 | 50500 | Noted 06/09/71 - at Nottingham1 | ||||||
| 50450 | 59191 | 50500 | Noted 18/09/1971 - at Crewe3 | ||||||
| 50450 | 59159 | 50500 | Noted 18/08/1972 - at Derby2 | ||||||
| 50448 | 59155 | 50500 | Noted 24/08/74 - at Nottingham4 | ||||||
| EP483 | 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 10/07/76 - at Norwich4 | |||||
| EP483 | 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 09/04/77 - at Peterborough4 | |||||
| 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 02/07/77 - on 2E84 0555 Crewe-Lincoln St Marks with 50677 + 59255 + 50730 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 14/09/1977 - at Birmingham New Street on service to Leicester 2 | ||||||
| 50444 | 50500 | Noted 13/10/1982 - Arrived Manchester Victoria as 06.25 ex Blackburn.5 | |||||||
| 50444 | 50500 | Noted circa 02/19835 | |||||||
| 53444 | 53500 | Noted circa 04/19855 | |||||||
| 53444 | 59206 | 53500 | Noted 17/08/1985 - at Bletchley6 | ||||||
| 53444 | 59206 | 53500 | Noted 24/11/85 | ||||||
| 53444 | 59206 | 53500 | Noted circa 12/19855 | ||||||
| 53476 | 53500 | Listed at NH - Summer 1986 - Pending arrival vehicle 54274 in use. | |||||||
| 53472 | 53500 | Formation change - NH - circa Oct-86 | |||||||
| 53472 | 53500 | Noted 24/04/1987 - at Leeds6 | |||||||
| 53472 | 53500 | Listed at NH - 10/05/87 | |||||||
| 53472 | 53500 | Noted circa 07/19875 | |||||||
| 53944 | 53500 | Listed at NH - 1st January 1988 | |||||||
| N665 | 53443 | 53500 | Listed at NH - May 1988 | ||||||
| N665 | 53443 | 53500 | Listed at NH - May-88 | ||||||
| N665 | 53443 | 53500 | Noted circa Jul-88 | ||||||
| N665 | 53443 | 53500 | Listed at NH - 16th July 1988 | ||||||
| N665 | 53443 | 53500 | Noted circa 11/19885 | ||||||
| N665 | 53443 | 53500 | Noted 3rd November 1988 |
Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Peter Wallwork
3: Jeremy Goodyear
4: Gerald Brown
5: Eddie Knorn
6: Robert Chilton
Images:
Unknown date
Two three-car BRC&W sets arriving into London Euston station, date unknown. The W584 in the cab window and signs on many passenger windows indicate that this an excursion. M50500 leads which was a Cockshute vehicle and has Stoke-on-Trent is on the destination blind. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Unknown date
A BRC&W triple set seen near Stone in Staffordshire, date unknown. Wolverhampton is on the destination blind. Stuart Mackay Collection.
May 1985
A Class 104 at Bedford (Midland Road) on a service from Bletchley, in very damp weather, 05/85. The vehicles are thought to be M53500 + M53444. Hugh Llewelyn.
16th October 1986
Coupled to a Class 108, a two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53500 + M53472 was awaiting custom at Leyland whilst working a Manchester Victoria to Blackpool North service on October 16th 1986. Martyn Hilbert.
27th February 1988
A pair of battered and work weary looking 30 year old BRC&W Class 104 DMUs stand in Manchester Piccadilly. M53500 is believed to be the vehicle on the Left. 27th February 1988. Andrew J Crowther.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: May 1985
Birmingham RC&W Co. Class 104 2-car Local Passenger dmu No. M53444 and presumably M53500 at Bedford (Midland Road) on a service from Bletchley, 05/85. Hugh Llewelyn.
Date: 19th October 1985
On 19 October 1985 I was chatting to a friend at Leamington Spa who said that one of the last locomotives he was yet to see was stabled at March Yard and would I like a trip over there? On the way we called at Bedford where this class 104 comprising vehicles 53444 + 59206 + 53500 was stabled in the electrified siding alongside the virtually empty car park. Peter Tandy.
Date: 3rd May 1987
Having taken the East Lancashire route at Farington Curve Junction, a two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53472 & M53500 was accelerating to climb the gradient to nearby Farington Curve, whilst working a Preston to Colne service on May 3rd 1987. Both cars were withdrawn in 1989 and subsequently scrapped by Berry's of Leicester. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 7th May 1987
Complete with bars fitted to the door droplights due to tight clearances inside Holme Tunnel on the Copy Pit route that connects Lancashire with West Yorkshire, a two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53472 & M53500 was passing Lostock Hall Junction with a Preston to Leeds service on May 7th 1987. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 24th April 1988
Set number: N665
Newton Heath Class 104 set N665 - DMBS 53443 and presumably DMCL 53500 - at Manchester Victoria on 24 April 1988. David Mant.
Date: 20th July 1989
Set number: N699
Class 100 Gloucester DMBS 53355 + Class 105 Cravens DMCL 53812 twin stored in Crewe carriage shed sidings 22-7-89ish. The set was stored at this time pending preservation by the NRM but was vandalised and not thought worth saving. A fraction of Class 104 DMCL 53500 is seen on the left, this car stored 31/3/89 and withdrawn 17/5/89. On Tour With the Class 13 Army.
Date: 18th July 1990
Set number: N699
Carrying the set number N699 on its cab end, Cravens Class 105 DMU, DMS M53812 awaits its final journey to the scrap yard in the sidings south of Crewe Carriage shed. The date of the photo is either 18th or 19th July 1990. Behind is its partner of recent years, Class 100 M53355, and a couple of Class 104 vehicles, likely DMSLs M53500 and M53518. Paul James.
Date: 30th August 1990
M53355 + M53812 with the Class 31 that has just brought them into Derby on 30 August 1990. There were also two Class 104 DMSs in the formation, M53500 (partly seen, note how its jumpers are connected to the Class 100) and M53518. The description with the negative notes they came from Newton Heath, the vehicles had been stored at Crewe Carriage Shed Sidings. They would all end up at Vic Berry's. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 30th August 1990
08889 backs onto withdrawn DMUs (53518, 53500, 53355 + 53812) and the 31 that had brought them to Derby on 30 August 1990. The description with the negative notes they came from Newton Heath, the vehicles had been stored at Crewe Carriage Shed Sidings. They would all end up at Vic Berry's. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 24th October 1990
Set number: N699
53355 seen at Vic Berrys yard at Leicester on 24/10/90 with 53812. The 104s behind are likely 53500 and 53518. Ian Francis.
Date: 28th October 1990
M53518, M53500 and 53464 (right - left) at Vic Berrys, Leicester, 28-10-90 Kevin Dowd.
Date: 11th November 1990
Set number: N699
M53812, M53500, M53518 and 33015 at Vic Berrys, Leicester 11-11-90. Kevin Dowd.