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Vehicle 50499 / 53499

Class 104

Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30294
Diagram: 558

Allocations

Sep-57	New to	5B (Crewe South)
Jan-58	Transferred to	5D (Cockshute)
3w/e 30/04/66	Transferred to	2H (Monument Lane)
4w/e 05/11/66	Transferred to	16C (Derby Etches Park)
May-73	Depot code change	DY
w/e 01/05/77	Transferred to	NH (Newton Heath)
14/05/89	Transferred to	CH (Chester) PCHX
04/10/89	Withdrawn from	CH (Chester) PXXZ

Notes

1st January 1988 - Has window bars
12th October 1990 - Listed as condemned at Derby depot

The vehicle carried the following numbers:

50499 - original number
53499 - from Aug-83 (53xxx / 54xxx change)

Modifications

Oct-86 - Window Bars Fitted

Disposal

Scrapped by Mayer Newman, Snailwell

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	50447	59155	50499	As delivered to 5B - September 1957
	50773	59313	50499	Noted 01/04/69 - passing Saltley¹
	50773	59313	50499	Noted 14/04/69 - in Derby¹
EP474	50447	59155	50499	Noted circa Jun-69
	50499	59165	50498	Noted 15/08/70 - at Crewe²
	50446	59157	50499	Noted 02/01/71
	50445	59159	50499	Noted 07/11/71 - in Birmingham New Street¹
	50445	59152	50499	Noted 18/08/1972 - at Derby³
	50445	59152	50499	Noted 16/12/72 - at Derby¹
	50445	59152	50499	Noted 16/06/73 - at Thetford²
EP481	50445	59152	50499	Noted 10/08/74 - at Norwich²
	50451	59151	50499	Noted 31/05/1975 - at Long Eaton³
	50451	59151	50499	Noted 14/06/75 - 1020 Crewe-Lincoln St Marks
NH449	50469	50499		Noted circa 10/1982⁴
	50469	59174	50499	Noted circa 10/1982⁴
	50469	59174	50499	Noted 13/10/1982 - Worked 07.33 Wigan to Manchester Victoria via Atherton⁴
	50974	50499		Noted circa 12/1982⁴
	50447	50499		Noted circa 01/1983⁴
	53470	59153	53499	Noted circa 10/1983⁴
	53470	53499		Noted circa 11/1983⁴
	53470	53499		Noted circa 03/1986⁴
	53470	53499		Listed at Newton Heath - Summer 1986
	53470	53499		Noted 06/02/1987⁴
	53470	53499		Listed at NH - 10/05/87
	53465	53499		Noted 30/08/87
	53465	53499		Noted 10th October 1987
	53465	53499		Noted 14/11/87 - on 09:41 Stockport - Stalybridge⁵
	53465	53499		Noted 14/11/87 - on 16:17 Stalybridge - Stockport⁵
	53465	53499		Noted 16th November 1987
	53465	53499		Listed at NH - 1st January 1988
	53465	53499		Noted 5th March 1988
N671	53465	53499		Noted circa 04/1988⁴
N671	53465	53499		Listed at NH - May 1988
N671	53465	53499		Noted June 1988
N671	53465	53499		Noted circa Jul-88
N671	53465	53499		Listed at NH - 16th July 1988
N671	53465	53499		Noted 26th November 1988
N671	53465	53499		Noted 15th May 1989
N671	53465	53499		Noted 16th May 1989
CH607	53439	53499		Listed at CH - 1st July 1989
CH607	53439	53499		Noted 24th September 1989
CH607	53439	53499		Listed at CH - 01/10/89

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Peter Wallwork
4: Eddie Knorn
5: Martin Baumann

Images:

29th April 1962

The 5.35pm Birmingham New Street - Rugby departs from Kenilworth on 29 April 1962. This was a Sunday, it had arrived ex-Berkswell and reversed and is now heading to Coventry. It is a good view of the rear of M50499 showing the original footsteps and the board above the gangway. Michael Mensing.

29th March 1977

A Class 104 DMU consisting of M50499, M59151 and M50450 (allocated to Derby Etches Park) is seen at Peterborough East on 29 March 1977. Phil Bevan.

7th April 1983

Class 104 DMU 50499 + 50447 stand at Manchester Victoria on 7.4.1983 Don Taggart.

17th September 1985

A leaning power line mast, as a BRCW 2-Car DMU formed of cars M53499 & M53470 was passing Globe Mill whilst accelerating away from the token exchange at Midge Hall with a Preston to Ormskirk service on September 17th 1985. The home signal (MH 2) in the Down direction at Midge Hall, was (and still is) the only surviving working semaphore on the national network in the Preston area. Martyn Hilbert.

30th August 1986

A two-car Class 104 DMU (M53499/M53470) was leading a pair of Class 108's on a six-car Blackpool North to Manchester Victoria service, departing from Chorley on August 30th 1986. Martyn Hilbert.

2nd June 1987

BRCW Class 104s 53499 and 53470 forming the 18:15 to Wigan Wallgate departing from Manchester Victoria in the rain on 2nd June 1987. Gordon Edgar.

6th July 1987

On a fine Summer evening, a two-car Class 104 DMU formed of Driving Motor Brake Second M53470 and Driving Motor Second Lavatory M53499, was hurrying along the Up Fast at Factory Lane, Penwortham, just South of Preston on July 6th 1987. The DMU appears to be well-filled, and the destination blind is showing Crewe. It may have been a returning special/charter from Blackpool North. Martyn Hilbert.

19th June 1989

Set number: CH607

A class 104 power twin formed of 53499 (nearer camera) and 53439 is seen stabled at Lancaster on 19/6/89. The unit was later seen at Morecambe. Leonard Rogers.

The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: 19th February 1980

A 2-car Class 104 at Matlock on 19/2/80. The DMBS (closest) is unknown but the DMC is 50499. Chris Lings.

Date: 19th February 1980

A 2-car Class 104 at Matlock on 19/2/80. The DMBS (closest) is unknown but the DMC is 50499. Chris Lings.

Date: 5th July 1981

This slide was annotated as 12:05 Heysham to York near Moss, 1980. The eight-car formation contains a Class 104 twin, a three car with Class 104 DMCL and TCL white stripers with a Class 108 DMBS, and another three-car which seems to be Class 105 power cars with a Class 104 centre car. Update: M50468 + 50499 / M50531 + 59178 + 50944 / M50761 + 59207 + 50794 with 1P90 12:15 Heysham Harbour-Accrington relief on 5 July 1981, see https://www.flickr.com/photos/psrp/50894325502/. For the incoming working see image 27291 on this website. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 5th July 1981

An eight-car DMU formation at Heysham Moss sometime in 1981, noted as an ex-Nelson to Heysham working (Rochdale is on the destination blind. Leading is a 105/104/105 - closest appears to be 50794 so its partners are presumably 59207 + 50761. The next three-car appears to be a 108 with two white-stripe 104s, then an unidentified two-car on the rear. Update: This is now thought to be 50794 + 59207 + M50761 / 50944 + 59178 + 50531 / 50499 + 50468 which would return with the 1P90 12:15 Heysham Harbour-Accrington relief on 5th July 1981, see https://www.flickr.com/photos/psrp/50894325502/. For that working see image 30023 on this website. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 30th August 1987

The British Rail Class 104 diesel multiple units were built by Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Company from 1957 to 1959. The first units were ordered for the London Midland Region, with the majority of the class for use in North West of England, sets were also used on Tyneside, like the Metro-Cammell class 101's these units truly worked nationwide, but of all the routes worked by the class the Buxton route was the one with which they became synonymous. Here is a Newton Heath allocated set comprising of M53465 + M53499 in Stockport's platform 3a with the Stalybridge shuttle service on 30th August 1987. Andrew J Crowther.

Date: 17th October 1987

A well laden two-car BRCW Class 104 DMU formed of cars M53465 & M53499 was departing from Lostock Hall on the last stage of its journey with a Colne to Preston service on October 17th 1987. Martyn Hilbert.

Date: 6th August 1989

Set number: CH607

Class 104 CH607 (M53439 + M53499) and Class 108 CH251 (M54498 + M51418) inside Llandudno Junction depot, 6-8-89. Kevin Dowd.

Date: 3rd February 1991

Set number: CH610

CH610 (M53531 + M53447) is seen stored at Derby Etches Park alsongside M53499 on the 3rd February 1991. Kevin Dowd.

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