Vehicle 50447 / 53447
Class 104
Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30293
Diagram: 556
Allocations
| Sep-57 | New to | 5B (Crewe South) | |
| Jan-58 | Transferred to | 5D (Cockshute) | |
| 3w/e 30/04/66 | Transferred to | 2H (Monument Lane) | |
| 4w/e 05/11/66 | Transferred to | 16C (Derby Etches Park) | |
| May-73 | Depot code change | DY | |
| 13/09/81 | Transferred to | NH (Newton Heath) | |
| 14/05/89 | Transferred to | CH (Chester) PCHX | |
| p/e 13/10/90 | Sector Change to | CH (Chester) PXXZ | |
| 09/03/92 | Withdrawn from | CH (Chester) PXXZ |
Notes
20th August 1989 - Part of 7-car 1T16 Chester - Trawsfynydd excursion and return consisting of M53516 + M53442 + M53531 + M53447 + M53925 + M59155 + M52039
12th October 1990 - Listed as stored condemned at Derby depot
The vehicle carried the following numbers:
50447 - original number
53447 - from Jun-84 (53xxx / 54xxx change)
Disposal
Preserved - more details.
Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:
| 50447 | 59155 | 50499 | As delivered to 5B - September 1957 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59309 | 50791 | Noted 07/09/68 - at March1 | ||||||
| EP471 | 50445 | 59155 | 50447 | Noted circa Jun-69 | |||||
| EP474 | 50447 | 59155 | 50499 | Noted circa Jun-69 | |||||
| 50447 | 59153 | 50503 | Noted 18/09/70 - at Peterborough2 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59152 | 50503 | Noted 22/02/1971 - at Crewe3 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59155 | 50496 | Noted 02/10/1971 - at Birmingham New Street4 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59155 | 50496 | Noted 13/11/71 - in Birmingham New Street2 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59151 | 50496 | Noted 29/07/72 - at Thetford1 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59151 | 50496 | Noted 10/02/73 - on Norwich depot5 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59151 | 50501 | Noted 07/07/74 - at Derby2 | ||||||
| EP483 | 50447 | 59152 | 50503 | Noted 03/07/1975 - at Derby3 | |||||
| EP483 | 50447 | 59152 | 50503 | Noted 27/07/75 - at Cambridge1 | |||||
| EP484 | 50447 | 59156 | 50448 | Noted 03/04/76 - at Peterborough1 | |||||
| EP483 | 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 10/07/76 - at Norwich1 | |||||
| EP483 | 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 09/04/77 - at Peterborough1 | |||||
| 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 02/07/77 - on 2E84 0555 Crewe-Lincoln St Marks with 50677 + 59255 + 50730 | ||||||
| 50447 | 59157 | 50500 | Noted 14/09/1977 - at Birmingham New Street on service to Leicester 3 | ||||||
| NH134 | 50447 | 52050 | Noted circa May 19826 | ||||||
| 50447 | 52060 | Noted circa 10/19826 | |||||||
| 50447 | 52060 | Noted 13/10/1982 - Worked 07.25 Blackburn to Manchester Victoria 6 | |||||||
| 50447 | 52060 | Noted circa 12/19826 | |||||||
| 50447 | 50499 | Noted circa 01/19836 | |||||||
| 53447 | 52064 | Noted circa 07/19836 | |||||||
| 53447 | 52055 | Noted circa 02/19846 | |||||||
| 53447 | 52055 | Noted 07/12/85 | |||||||
| 53447 | 52055 | Listed at Newton Heath - Summer 1986 | |||||||
| 53447 | 53531 | Listed at NH - 10/05/87 | |||||||
| 53447 | 53531 | Listed at NH - 1st January 1988 | |||||||
| N667 | 53447 | 53531 | Listed at NH - May 1988 | ||||||
| N667 | 53447 | 53531 | Listed at NH - May-88 | ||||||
| N667 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted circa Jul-88 | ||||||
| N667 | 53447 | 53531 | Listed at NH - 16th July 1988 | ||||||
| N667 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted 13th December 1988 | ||||||
| N667 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted 12th April 1989 | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Listed at CH - 1st July 1989 | ||||||
| 53447 | 53531 | Noted 17/07/89 - at Penyffordd7 | |||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted 20th August 1989 | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted 20/08/1989 - Chester to Trawsfynydd and return section of Hertfordshire Railtours The Trawsfynydd Flyer CH608+CH610+CH371 | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Listed at CH - 14/10/89 | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted 26th February 1990 | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted 30th April 1990 | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted circa 05/19906 | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Noted 4th May 1990 - last known working of a 104 on Buxton line | ||||||
| CH610 | 53447 | 53531 | Listed at CH - mid May-90 |
Formation Sources
1: Gerald Brown
2: Leonard Rogers
3: Peter Wallwork
4: Jeremy Goodyear
5: Ipswich Transport Society
6: Eddie Knorn
7: Aaron Calder
Images:
3rd September 1975
Set number: EP483
M50447 leads Etches Park allocated Class 104 DMU set EP483 at Elmesthorpe on 3 September 1975. Cambridge is on the destination blind. Phillip Malin.
18th January 1981
A Class 104/108 power twin seen near Brierfield on 18 January 1981. The Class 104 seems to be M50447. Walter Burt.
September 1984
Class 104 53447 (and presumably 52055) appears to be empty when seen at Manchester Victoria in September 1984. Stuart Mackay Collection.
26th July 1985
Class 104 53447 is seen at Leeds coupled to a Class 108 (probably 52055) on 26.07.1985. This was later preserved at the Llangollen Railway. Andy Cole.
August 1985
A Class 104 DMBS / Class 108 DMSL hydrid (53447 + 52055) at Stockport in August 1985 with the Stalybridge shuttle. Ian Docwra.
August 1985
The Stockport shuttle seen at Stalybridge in August 1985 formed of 53447 + 52055. Ian Docwra.
August 1985
The view from the front seats of Class 104 DMBS 53447 leaving Stockport bound for Stalybridge in August 1985. The driver has the blinds down but has kindly left the door open. Ian Docwra.
23rd April 1988
Set number: N667
Two-car Class 104 set N667 (53447 and presumably 53531) behind a Class 47 at Sheffield on the 23rd April 1988. Dennis Taylor.
27th May 1989
Set number: N667
Class 104 set No. N667 (53447 and 53531) stand at Manchester Piccadilly before working a service to New Mills on 27 May 1989. Brian Creasey.
30th August 1989
Set number: CH610
Class 104 set CH610 (53447 + 53531) approaches Deganwy at 12:25 on Wednesday 30th August 1989. Colin Brooks.
The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:
Date: 17th June 1962
The 8.15am Stoke-on-Trent - Birmingham New Street service is seen at Walsall on 17 June 1962, diverted via Rugeley and Walsall due to engineering works. The three-car BRC&W set includes M59155 and M50447 which were allocated to Cockshute at the time. Michael Mensing.
Date: 16th October 1981
A Colne - Preston service is seen at Brierfield, Burnley, on 16 October 1981 formed of a Class 108 DMSL and a bald Class 104 DMBS - likely 50447. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Date: 7th April 1983
Class 104 DMU 50499 + 50447 stand at Manchester Victoria on 7.4.1983 Don Taggart.
Date: August 1985
The infamous Stockport to Stalybridge service, here arriving into Stockport formed of a hybrid class 108/104 set (52055 + 53447) in August 1985. Ian Docwra.
Date: 6th April 1986
With the site of the long abandoned gated siding to the Brickworks at Croston in the foreground, A Class 108/104 hybrid 2-Car DMU formed of cars M52055 & M53447 get underway from Croston station, (visible on the extreme left) with a well-filled tea-time Preston to Ormskirk service on April 6th 1986. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 1988
Set number: 101316
Many Met-Camm sets in the DMU sidings in Haymarket depot in 1988. Closest is 101316 (the DMC is presumably 53141), at the stops on the left is 53447. S Saunders.
Date: 3rd September 1988
In the sidings at Southport on September 3rd 1988 are Class 108 53944 (paired with a Met-Camm) & Class 104 53447 are stabled between duties. Another 104 is in the station. In the foreground 507 011 awaits a visit to works for overhaul and bodywork repairs. The station layout was then controlled by the former Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway Signalbox, (visible top left), complete with its electro-pneumatic control system dating from 1917. Martyn Hilbert.
Date: 15th August 1989
Set number: CH610
CH610 M53531 + M53447 pass Romiley box on 2H60 11:00 Man Picc to New Mills Central, 15-8-89, "in the days when I was a train booking lad in the box!" says Kev. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 2nd September 1989
Set number: CH610
CH610 53531 + M53447 are seen departing away from Greenbank on 10:02 Warrington Central to Chester, 2-9-89. Robert Simpson.
Date: 21st September 1989
Set number: CH610
Class 104 set CH610 (M53531 + M53447) is seen at Llandudno on September 21, 1989. Hamish Stevenson.
Date: 4th May 1990
Set number: CH611
CH611 M53529 + M53451 arrive into Manchester Piccadilly ECS from Stockport CS, seen from CH610 M53447 (+ 53531) on 2H06, the 16:07 Man Piccadilly to Buxton, the last ever time a 104 worked to Buxton. 4th May 1990. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 17th May 1990
Set number: CH610
CH610 M53531 + M53447 stand failed in the Platform 1 neck end at Manchester Piccadilly, 17-5-90. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 31st May 1990
Set number: CH610
CH610 53531 + M53447 on Chester Depot, 31-5-90. Kevin Dowd.
Date: 3rd February 1991
Set number: CH610
CH610 (M53531 + M53447) is seen stored at Derby Etches Park alsongside M53499 on the 3rd February 1991. Kevin Dowd.