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Vehicle 50461 / 53461


Class 104

Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30293
Diagram: 556

Allocations

4w/e 30/11/57 New to 5D (Cockshute)
Jun-58 Transferred to 5B (Crewe South)
Oct-58 Transferred to 5D (Cockshute)
3w/e 30/04/66 Transferred to 9A (Longsight)
4w/e 04/02/67 Transferred to 9D (Newton Heath)
4w/e 04/03/67 Transferred to 9A (Longsight)
2w/e 10/02/68 Transferred to 9D (Newton Heath)
May-73Depot code changeNH
circa Dec-83 Withdrawn from NH (Newton Heath)
06/01/84 Reinstated AY (Ayr) - cover for AY fire damaged vehicles
Feb-87 Stored U. FY (Falkland Yard)
Mar-87 Withdrawn from AY (Ayr) - also noted as 15/07/87

Notes

29th February 1984 - Seen carrying unit no. 104 453
11th May 1984 - Seen carrying unit no. 104 453
3rd August 1984 - Seen in plain blue livery
19th February 1985 - Seen in blue & grey livery
12th February 1987 - Seen at Falkland Yard

The vehicle carried the following numbers:

50461 - original number
53461 - from Jan-84 (53xxx / 54xxx change)

Modifications

circa Jul-72 - AWS fitted

Disposal

Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:


50461 59169 50513 As delivered to 5D - 4w/e 30/11/57
50461 59176 50506 Noted 04/08/68 - in Manchester Victoria1
50461 59169 50514 Noted 16/04/73 - in Manchester Victoria2
50461 59169 50510 Noted 04/09/74 - in Manchester Victoria2
50461 59169 50510 Noted 10/09/76 - on Newton Heath depot2
50461 59169 50510 Noted 12/08/1977 - 2D52, 17.25 Crewe to Llandudno3
50461 59169 50510 Noted 22/08/1977 - Seen at Shotton on a Llandudno - Manchester service3
50461 59175 50510 Noted 25/10/1980 - At Holyhead4
NH446 50461 59152 50510 Noted circa 05/19823
NH446 50461 59152 50510 Noted 19/07/1982 - Manchester Victoria3
NH446 50461 59152 50510 Noted circa 10/19823
53461 53510 Noted circa 05/19833
104450 53452 59225 53461 Noted 8th January 1984
53452 59225 53461 Noted 9th January 1984
53452 59225 53461 Noted 17th January 1984
53461 59793 52027 Noted 13th February 1984
104453 53461 59793 52001 Noted 11th May 1984
104453 53461 59798 53245 Listed at AY - 17/06/84
53461 59080 53577 Noted 19th February 1985
spare 53461 Listed at AY - 25/03/85
104452 53461 59558 53577 Noted May 1985
53461 59559 52013 Noted 30th July 1985
53461 54403 52026 Noted 29th March 1986
104452 53461 59558 Listed at Ayr - Summer 1986
53461 59791 53649 Noted 6th June 1986
452 53461 59791 53659 Noted 4th August 1986
104452 53461 59791 53649 Formation change - p/e 17/09/86
53461 59791 53659 Noted 25th September 1986
104452 53461 59558 51584 Formation change - circa Oct-86 - 51584 added
53461 59791 53659 Noted 10/10/1986 - at Glasgow Central3
53461 59791 53659 Noted 16th October 1986
53461 59560 53653 Noted 19th November 1986

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Eddie Knorn
4: Shayne Lewis

Images:

Class 104 DMU at Paisley Gilmour Street

17th May 1984

Set number: 104453

Class 104 DMBS Sc53461 on the rear of a hybrid set at Paisley Gilmour Street on May 17, 1984. John Carter.

Class 104 DMU at Glasgow Central

circa 1984

Set number: 104453

A mixed formation DMU leaves Glasgow Central for Ayr, circa mid-1984. On the rear is Class 104 DMBS 53461. Spannerman37025.

Class 104 DMU at Glasgow Central

October 1984

Set number: 104452

104 452 (presumably with 53461 at the front and with two Class 107 vehicles) seen in Glasgow Central station in October 1984. Mike Cooper.

Class 104 DMU at Slateford

6th October 1984

Set number: 104452

104 452 (with presumably 53461 at the front) leads a six-car formation on the 15:22 Edinburgh Waverley - West Calder into Slateford station, 6th October 1984. Hamish Stevenson.

Class 104 DMU at Glasgow Central

12th July 1985

Set number: 104452

EMU set 311 097 waits departure from Glasgow Central with train 2L17 the 22.07 Inner circle service to Glasgow Central via Maxwell Park. Alongside stands DMU set 104 452 which was a hybrid set with 53461 at front formingthe 2B60 the 22.15 to Barrhead. July 12, 1985. Adrian Nicholls.

Class 104 DMU at Corkerhill

25th May 1986

Set number: 104452

Class 104 53461, set number 104 452, is seen stabled at Corkerhill on 25.05.1986. This was one of the few Class 104's to be painted into blue and grey, and was also one of the few Class 104's allocated to Scotland. Andy Cole.

Class 104 DMU at Kilwinning

circa summer 1986

Set number: 104452

A hybrid DMU in Kilwinning station circa summer 1986. Closest is Class 104 DMBS 53461, the other two vehicles are presumably Class 107 59791 and Class 120 53649. Brian Ward.

Class 104 DMU at Edinburgh Waverley

28th November 1986

Set number: 104452

Hybrid set 104 452 runs into Edinburgh Waverley on the 11:04 from North Berwick, 28th November 1986. The set of formed of a Class 104 DMBS, a Class 101 centre car and Class 120 DMS. Hamish Stevenson.


The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

DMU

Date: January 1984

Ayr Variety. DMBS M53461 (104 452) + TBS E59225 + DMBS M53452 (104 450). Triple brake Class 104 lash up stabled at Kyle Street Sidings with two Set identities! Probably made up of vehicles scavenged from south of the border after the fire at Ayr Depot. January 1984. alicia hartman.

DMU

Date: January 1984

Set number: 104450

Ayr Variety. BRCW Class 104 triple at Glasgow Central High Level Platfrom 11, having arrived on a working from Ayr. This is probably DMBS M53452 (104 450) + TBS E59225 + DMBS M53461 (104 452) seen previously at Ayr Kyle Street. Most of the vehicles drafted in after the Ayr Depot fire had seen better days elsewhere. The station roof needs some attention. The good old days!? Tuesday 24 January 1984. alicia hartman.

DMU

Date: January 1984

Ayr Variety. BRCW Class 104 triple at Glasgow Central High Level Platfrom 11, having arrived on a working from Ayr. This is probably DMBS M53452 (104 450) + TBS E59225 + DMBS M53461 (104 452) seen previously at Ayr Kyle Street. Two Class 86 Electric Locomotives are stabled at the stops in the adjacent Platform 10 - not an unusual occurrence in this part of the station at that time. Tuesday 24 January 1984. alicia hartman.