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Vehicle 50461 / 53461

Class 104

Builder: BRC&W
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30293
Diagram: 556

Allocations

4w/e 30/11/57	New to	5D (Cockshute)
Jun-58	Transferred to	5B (Crewe South)
Oct-58	Transferred to	5D (Cockshute)
3w/e 30/04/66	Transferred to	9A (Longsight)
4w/e 04/02/67	Transferred to	9D (Newton Heath)
4w/e 04/03/67	Transferred to	9A (Longsight)
2w/e 10/02/68	Transferred to	9D (Newton Heath)
May-73	Depot code change	NH
circa Dec-83	Withdrawn from	NH (Newton Heath)
06/01/84	Reinstated	AY (Ayr)	- cover for AY fire damaged vehicles
Feb-87	Stored U.	FY (Falkland Yard)
Mar-87	Withdrawn from	AY (Ayr)	- also noted as 15/07/87

Notes

29th February 1984 - Seen carrying unit no. 104 453
11th May 1984 - Seen carrying unit no. 104 453
3rd August 1984 - Seen in plain blue livery
19th February 1985 - Seen in blue & grey livery
12th February 1987 - Seen at Falkland Yard

The vehicle carried the following numbers:

50461 - original number
53461 - from Jan-84 (53xxx / 54xxx change)

Modifications

circa Jul-72 - AWS fitted

Disposal

Scrapped by Vic Berry, Leicester

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	50461	59169	50513	As delivered to 5D - 4w/e 30/11/57
	50461	59176	50506	Noted 04/08/68 - in Manchester Victoria¹
	50461	59169	50514	Noted 16/04/73 - in Manchester Victoria²
	50461	59169	50510	Noted 04/09/74 - in Manchester Victoria²
	50461	59169	50510	Noted 10/09/76 - on Newton Heath depot²
	50461	59169	50510	Noted 12/08/1977 - 2D52, 17.25 Crewe to Llandudno³
	50461	59169	50510	Noted 22/08/1977 - Seen at Shotton on a Llandudno - Manchester service³
	50461	59175	50510	Noted 25/10/1980 - At Holyhead⁴
NH446	50461	59152	50510	Noted circa 05/1982³
NH446	50461	59152	50510	Noted 19/07/1982 - Manchester Victoria³
NH446	50461	59152	50510	Noted circa 10/1982³
	53461	53510		Noted circa 05/1983³
104450	53452	59225	53461	Noted 8th January 1984
	53452	59225	53461	Noted 9th January 1984
	53452	59225	53461	Noted 17th January 1984
	53461	59793	52027	Noted 13th February 1984
104453	53461	59793	52001	Noted 11th May 1984
104453	53461	59798	53245	Listed at AY - 17/06/84
	53461	59080	53577	Noted 19th February 1985
spare	53461			Listed at AY - 25/03/85
104452	53461	59558	53577	Noted May 1985
	53461	59559	52013	Noted 30th July 1985
	53461	54403	52026	Noted 29th March 1986
104452	53461	59558		Listed at Ayr - Summer 1986
	53461	59791	53649	Noted 6th June 1986
452	53461	59791	53659	Noted 4th August 1986
104452	53461	59791	53649	Formation change - p/e 17/09/86
	53461	59791	53659	Noted 25th September 1986
104452	53461	59558	51584	Formation change - circa Oct-86 - 51584 added
	53461	59791	53659	Noted 10/10/1986 - at Glasgow Central³
	53461	59791	53659	Noted 16th October 1986
	53461	59560	53653	Noted 19th November 1986

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Eddie Knorn
4: Shayne Lewis

Images:

17th May 1984

Set number: 104453

Class 104 DMBS Sc53461 on the rear of a hybrid set at Paisley Gilmour Street on May 17, 1984. John Carter.

circa 1984

Set number: 104453

A mixed formation DMU leaves Glasgow Central for Ayr, circa mid-1984. On the rear is Class 104 DMBS 53461. Spannerman37025.

October 1984

Set number: 104452

104 452 (presumably with 53461 at the front and with two Class 107 vehicles) seen in Glasgow Central station in October 1984. Mike Cooper.

6th October 1984

Set number: 104452

104 452 (with presumably 53461 at the front) leads a six-car formation on the 15:22 Edinburgh Waverley - West Calder into Slateford station, 6th October 1984. Hamish Stevenson.

12th July 1985

Set number: 104452

EMU set 311 097 waits departure from Glasgow Central with train 2L17 the 22.07 Inner circle service to Glasgow Central via Maxwell Park. Alongside stands DMU set 104 452 which was a hybrid set with 53461 at front formingthe 2B60 the 22.15 to Barrhead. July 12, 1985. Adrian Nicholls.

25th May 1986

Set number: 104452

Class 104 53461, set number 104 452, is seen stabled at Corkerhill on 25.05.1986. This was one of the few Class 104's to be painted into blue and grey, and was also one of the few Class 104's allocated to Scotland. Andy Cole.

circa summer 1986

Set number: 104452

A hybrid DMU in Kilwinning station circa summer 1986. Closest is Class 104 DMBS 53461, the other two vehicles are presumably Class 107 59791 and Class 120 53649. Brian Ward.

28th November 1986

Set number: 104452

Hybrid set 104 452 runs into Edinburgh Waverley on the 11:04 from North Berwick, 28th November 1986. The set of formed of a Class 104 DMBS, a Class 101 centre car and Class 120 DMS. Hamish Stevenson.

The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: January 1984

Ayr Variety. DMBS M53461 (104 452) + TBS E59225 + DMBS M53452 (104 450). Triple brake Class 104 lash up stabled at Kyle Street Sidings with two Set identities! Probably made up of vehicles scavenged from south of the border after the fire at Ayr Depot. January 1984. alicia hartman.

Date: January 1984

Set number: 104450

Ayr Variety. BRCW Class 104 triple at Glasgow Central High Level Platfrom 11, having arrived on a working from Ayr. This is probably DMBS M53452 (104 450) + TBS E59225 + DMBS M53461 (104 452) seen previously at Ayr Kyle Street. Most of the vehicles drafted in after the Ayr Depot fire had seen better days elsewhere. The station roof needs some attention. The good old days!? Tuesday 24 January 1984. alicia hartman.

Date: January 1984

Ayr Variety. BRCW Class 104 triple at Glasgow Central High Level Platfrom 11, having arrived on a working from Ayr. This is probably DMBS M53452 (104 450) + TBS E59225 + DMBS M53461 (104 452) seen previously at Ayr Kyle Street. Two Class 86 Electric Locomotives are stabled at the stops in the adjacent Platform 10 - not an unusual occurrence in this part of the station at that time. Tuesday 24 January 1984. alicia hartman.

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