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Vehicle 59610


Class 127

Builder: BR Derby Works
Layout: High Density
Length: 64ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square / Red Triangle
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: None
Lot Number: 30522
Diagram: 589

Allocations

The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 51633 during the unknown period are:

17/10/59 New to Chaddesden - stabled pending allocation
Dec-59 Transferred to 14A (Cricklewood)

Then the allocations for 59610 are:

17/07/83 Transferred to TS (Tyseley) - also reported as 10/10/82
20/11/90 Withdrawn from TS (Tyseley) PXXZ

Modifications

Jul-87 - Gangway(s) fitted

Disposal

Scrapped by Mayer Parry, Snailwell

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:


51633 59610 59640 51634 As delivered to Chaddesden sidings - 17th October 1959
51619 59610 59637 51649 Noted 20/03/71 - at Luton1
51598 59610 59622 51644 Noted 09/09/1975 - at Luton2
51636 59610 59627 51645 Noted 23/04/77 - on 18.13 St. Pancras – Bedford3
51623 59610 59627 51626 Noted 13/02/79 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51623 59610 59627 51626 Noted 14/02/79 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51623 59610 59627 51626 Noted 15/02/79 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51604 59610 59627 51623 Noted 02/03/79 - on 11.15 Luton – Bedford with 51624 + 59594 + 59641 + 516253
51599 59610 59644 51646 Noted 05/04/79 - on 12.03 Luton – Cricklewood3
51599 59610 59644 51646 Noted 12/04/79 - on 11.29 Elstree – Cricklewood3
51599 59610 59644 51646 Noted 21/04/79 - on 02.05 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51598 59610 59622 51608 Noted 05/05/79 - on 07.45 Bedford – Cricklewood with 51607 + 59594 + 59641 + 516243
51606 59610 59622 51639 Noted 23/05/79 - on 15.03 Luton – Cricklewood3
51624 59610 59622 51646 Noted 10/06/79 - on 04.35 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51607 59610 59625 51608 Noted 13/07/79 - on 18.22 St. Albans – Bedford with 51597 + 59614 + 59634 + 516503
51607 59610 59625 51627 Noted 28/08/79 - on 21.15 Luton – Cricklewood3
51607 59610 59625 51627 Noted 30/08/79 - on 23.51 Cricklewood – St. Albans3
51626 59610 59625 51643 Noted 21/09/79 - on 23.10 Bedford - Cricklewood3
51626 59610 59625 51643 Noted 01/10/79 - on 15.09 Cricklewood – Luton3
51599 59610 59625 51626 Noted 17/10/79 - on 23.10 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51599 59610 59625 51626 Noted 21/10/79 - on 12.08 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51599 59610 59625 51626 Noted 24/10/79 - on 14.02 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51599 59610 59625 51626 Noted 26/10/79 - on 12.03 Luton – Cricklewood3
51599 59610 59625 51626 Noted 07/11/79 - on 19.17 Cricklewood – St. Albans3
51598 59610 59625 51642 Noted 24/12/79 - on 13.02 Luton – Cricklewood3
51598 59610 59625 51642 Noted 03/01/80 - on 11.09 Cricklewood – Luton3
51598 59610 59625 51626 Noted 18/01/80 - on 03.31 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51599 59610 59625 51622 Noted 15/02/80 - on 12.57 St. Pancras – Cricklewood and 15.35 St. Pancras – Bedford3
51599 59610 59625 51622 Noted 21/02/80 - on 01.45 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51599 59610 59625 51622 Noted 24/02/80 - on 22.29 West Hampstead – Bedford3
51645 59610 59625 51649 Noted 18/03/80 - on 14.09 Cricklewood – Luton3
51617 59610 59648 51645 Noted 31/03/80 - on a Bedford – Cricklewood working3
51614 59610 59625 51645 Noted 18/08/80 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood3
51614 59610 59625 51645 Noted 23/08/80 - on 07.10 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51614 59610 59625 51645 Noted 28/08/80 - on 19.02 Cricklewood – Kentish Town3
51614 59610 59625 51645 Noted 06/09/80 - on 07.45 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51606 59610 59625 51645 Noted 10/09/80 - on 13.49 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51606 59610 59625 51645 Noted 11/09/80 - on 13.49 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51606 59610 59625 51645 Noted 21/09/80 - on 02.22 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51606 59610 59625 51645 Noted 22/09/80 - on 17.03 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
50068 59610 50903 Noted 28/11/80 - on 21.15 Luton – Cricklewood (116/127 hybrid)3
50071 59610 50114 50903 Noted 22/12/80 - on 18.19 Cricklewood – St. Albans and 17.58 Moorgate LT - St. Albans (116/127 hybrid)3
50071 59610 50114 50903 Noted 23/12/80 - on 17.58 Moorgate LT - St. Albans (116/127 hybrid)3
50071 59610 50114 50903 Noted 23/12/80 - on 18.19 Cricklewood – St. Albans (116/127 hybrid)3
51646 59610 59631 51649 Noted 07/03/81 - on 21.15 Luton – Cricklewood3
51646 59610 59631 51649 Noted 20/03/81 - on 21.20 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51646 59610 59631 51649 Noted 23/03/81 - on 23.10 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51621 59608 59610 51636 Noted 12/05/81 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood (two TSLs)3
51595 59608 59610 51636 Noted 10/06/81 - on 19.10 Bedford – Luton (two TSLs)3
51595 59608 59610 51636 Noted 15/06/81 - on 03.31 Cricklewood – Bedford (two TSLs)3
51593 59610 59645 51622 Noted 25/01/82 - on 18.11 Kentish Town – St. Pancras3
51593 59610 59645 51637 Noted 24/02/82 - on 14.00 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51593 59610 59645 51637 Noted 26/02/82 - on 21.20 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51597 59610 59645 51604 Noted 05/04/82 - on 08.31 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
51597 59610 59645 51604 Noted 11/04/82 - on 06.42 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51639 59610 59645 51611 Noted circa 05/19824
51611 59610 59645 51639 Noted 1st May 1982
51593 59610 59631 51645 Noted 24/06/82 - on 08.01 Luton – Bedford3
51625 59610 59631 51645 Noted 02/08/82 - on 07.54 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51626 59621 59610 51638 Noted circa 01/19834
51626 59610 59621 51638 Noted 05/01/83 - on 04.25 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51608 59610 59621 51626 Noted 25/01/83 - on 13.27 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
51608 59610 59621 51626 Noted 02/02/83 - on 16.50 St. Pancras – Luton and 17.55 Luton – St. Pancras3
51608 59610 59621 51626 Noted 04/02/83 - on 16.50 St. Pancras – Luton and 17.55 Luton – St. Pancras3
51608 59610 59621 51626 Noted 07/02/83 - on 08.59 Cricklewood – Luton3
51608 59610 59621 51626 Noted 10/02/83 - on 06.15 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51608 59610 59621 51626 Noted 11/02/83 - on 06.15 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51648 59610 59621 51618 Noted circa 03/19834
51648 59610 59621 51647 Noted circa 03/19834
51647 59621 59610 51648 Noted 12/03/1983 - St Pancras4
51599 59610 59621 51647 Noted 23/03/83 - on a St. Pancras – Cricklewood working3
51599 59610 59621 51647 Noted 10/04/83 - on 16.20 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51599 59610 59632 51647 Noted 14/04/83 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
51599 59610 59632 51647 Noted 18/04/83 - on 12.39 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51616 59610 59632 51647 Noted circa 05/19834
TS504 53059 59610 53104 Noted circa 12/19834
TS504 53059 59610 53104 Noted circa 10/19844
TS504 53059 59610 53104 Noted circa 01/19854
TS504 53059 59610 53104 Noted 12/02/1985 - 0805 Hereford to Reading
TS629 53079 59610 53114 Formation change - TS - circa Sep-85 - 59610 replaced 59603
TS629 53079 59610 53114 Noted circa 10/19854
TS629 53079 59610 53114 Noted 09/12/85 - at Norwich5
TS629 53079 59610 53114 Listed at Tyseley - Summer 1986
51133 59610 53886 Noted 20/01/87 - at Norwich5
T602 53082 59610 53886 Listed at TS - Jul-87
T401 51662 59743 59610 53886 Formed at TS Aug-87
T401 51662 59743 59610 53886 Listed at Tyseley - 7th April 1988
T401 51662 59743 59610 53886 Noted circa 05/19884
T401 51662 59610 59743 51149 Noted circa 12/19884
T401 51662 59610 59743 53886 Noted circa 03/19894
T401 51662 59610 59743 53886 Listed at TS - 01/09/89
T401 51662 59743 59610 53886 Listed at TS - 01/12/89
51662 59743 59610 53886 Noted 06/05/1990 - at Tyseley depot6
T401 51662 59743 59610 53886 Listed at TS - mid May-90

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Peter Wallwork
3: Phil Shatford
4: Eddie Knorn
5: Gerald Brown
6: Jeremy Goodyear

Images:

Class 127 DMU at Tyseley depot

7th June 1986

Hiding behind the smoke from Metropolitan 1 is Class 127 TSL 59610 with Class 116 DMS 53114 on the left. The DMBS is likely 53079, the three vehicles formed set TS629 at the time. Tyseley depot, 7 June 1986. Keith Miller.

Class 127 DMU at Snailwell

10th September 1991

Class 127 TSL at Snailwell on 10th September 1991. Nicholas Youngman.


The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

DMU

Date: August 1964

Set number: 304

Derby suburban triple set 304 seen at Widney Manor with a Leamington service in early August 1964. DMBS 50059 leads, presumably with 59004 + 50104. The set would become TY504 and then TS504, retaining the same vehicles until 1983 when Class 127 TSL 59610 replaced 59004 as a means of reducing the number of vehicles containing asbestos. Michael Mensing.

DMU

Date: 8th April 1983

A London Midland Region publicity image (negative W19344/4) dated 8 April 1983. The details on the rear has the title 'Midland Suburban Electrification - London-Bedford' and the text 'A four-car diesel multiple unit leaving St. Pancras station. The trains are shortly to be replaced by four-car Class 317 electric multiple units.' Leading is M51599, the second car is M59610 in blue/grey livery. British Rail.

DMU

Date: 7th July 1984

Set number: TS504

A Class 116 DMU at University, Birmingham on 07/07/84. Partly obscured, the set number TSx04 and the corner damage suggest this is set TS504 and 53059, the 127 centre car is probably 59610. Steve Jones.

DMU

Date: 6th May 1987

Set number: TS602

53082/59610/53886 running 25 minutes late on the 12.59 Reading to Birmingham New Street at Leamington Spa on 06/05/87. Steve Jones.

DMU

Date: September 1988

Set number: T401

A four-car suburban DMU - set T401 - sits in Sheffield station in September 1988. Closest is Class 115 DMBS 51662, the centre cars are presumably Class 115 TS 59743 and Class 127 TSL 59610. The rear car is a Class 116 DMS. George Woods.

DMU

Date: September 1988

Set number: T40

A four-car suburban DMU at Sheffield in September 1988. Closest is a Class 1l6 DMS with the set number missing the last digit - it could be a stand in for the regular vehicle. At the far end is Class 115 DMBS 51662, the two centre cars are presumably Class 127 TSL 59610 and Class 115 TS 59743. George Woods.

DMU

Date: 11th March 1989

Set number: T401

A four-car Tyseley DMU, set 401, passing the signalbox at Bearley Junction on 11 March 1989. This unit is a right hotch-potch with a class 116 DMS 53886, class 115 TS 59743, class 127 TSL 59610 and Class 115 DMBS 51662. This mixture of types was far from unusual at Tyseley around this time with the depot using whatever they had available to keep trains running at a time of dreadful reliability. Peter Tandy.

DMU

Date: 15th March 1989

Set number: T401

Hybrid 4-car DMU with Class 115 DMBS 51662 leading arriving Lichfield Trent Valley from Birmingham on 15-3-89. The set is presumably formed 51662+59610+59743+53886, Class 115+127+115+116, DMBS+TLS+TS+DMS, but formations were very fluid at Tyseley at this time! On Tour With The Class 13 Army.