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Vehicle 59611

Class 127

Builder: BR Derby Works
Layout: High Density
Length: 64ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square / Red Triangle
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: None
Lot Number: 30522
Diagram: 589

Allocations

The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 51635 during the unknown period are:

31/10/59	New to	Derby Friargate	- stabled pending allocation
4w/e 30/01/60	Transferred to	14A (Cricklewood)

Then the allocations for 59611 are:

10/06/84	Transferred to	TS (Tyseley)
02/08/93	Transferred to	HQ (Headquarters) RFXX
09/08/93	Withdrawn from	HQ (Headquarters) RFXX

Notes

19/05/84 - Tyseley formation 53055 / 59611 / 53116 + 53890 / 59603 / 53867 was an unusual visitor to the Hastings area on 19 May 1984 on a working from Bicester.

59611 was involved in the following incident:

09/02/66 - Napsbury, LMR

Fire involving Class 127

Info from Bill Read

During investigation of excessive wear in the torque convertors of the Class 127 units, M51622 was fitted with test equipment which caused the cardan shaft to break up, rupture the fuel tank and catch fire. More Details.

Disposal

Scrapped by MC Metal Processing, Springburn

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	51635	59611	59641	51636	As delivered to Derby Friargate - 31st October 1959 - stabled pending allocation
	51645	59633	59611	51647	Noted 20/03/71 - at Luton¹
	51608	59611	59644	51648	Noted 31/08/74 - at St Pancras²
	51591	59611	59637	51605	Noted 23/08/75 - at Kentish Town²
	51592	59611	59622	51620	Noted 15/01/79 - on 05.35 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51592	59611	59622	51620	Noted 19/01/79 - on 12.34 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51614	59611	59622	51645	Noted 14/02/79 - on 11.09 Cricklewood – Luton with 51624 + 59594 + 59619 + 51625³
	51614	59611	59622	51645	Noted 15/02/79 - on 11.09 Cricklewood – Luton³
	51618	59611	59622	51645	Noted 12/03/79 - on 01.45 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51599	59611	59622	51618	Noted 26/03/79 - on 05.35 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51595	59611	59622	51618	Noted 29/03/79 - on 16.17 Cricklewood – Luton with 51621 + 59612 + 59627 + 51649³
	51618	59611	59622	51645	Noted 18/04/79 - on 16.47 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59645	51644	Noted 02/05/79 - on 15.09 Cricklewood – Luton³
	51604	59611	59619	51644	Noted 30/06/79 - on 12.17 Cricklewood – Bedford³
	51604	59611	59619	51644	Noted 01/07/79 - on 14.30 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51604	59611	59619	51605	Noted 13/07/79 - on 11.00 Bedford – Luton³
	51604	59611	59619	51605	Noted 17/07/79 - on 13.03 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51621	59611	59629	51626	Noted 09/08/79 - on 06.15 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51621	59611	59629	51636	Noted 14/08/79 - on 14.00 Bedford – Luton³
	51644	59611	59629	51647	Noted 16/08/79 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood with 51604 + 59598 + 59645 + 51636³
	51636	59611	59629	51645	Noted 29/08/79 - on 20.10 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51636	59611	59629	51645	Noted 30/08/79 - on 16.47 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51636	59611	59629	51645	Noted 04/09/79 - on 05.35 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51636	59611	59629	51645	Noted 07/09/79 - on 04.25 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51611	59611	59629	51636	Noted 20/09/79 - on 22.40 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51605	59611	59622	51648	Noted 29/01/80 - on a St. Pancras – Bedford service³
	51606	59611	59622	51648	Noted 24/02/80 - on 13.15 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51593	59611	59633	51603	Noted 19/03/80 - on 13.09 Cricklewood – Luton³
	51593	59611	59633	51603	Noted 01/04/80 - on 23.10 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51633	59611	59633	51648	Noted 01/05/80 - on 20.10 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51618	59611	59629	51633	Noted 03/05/80 - on 20.42 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51618	59611	59629	51633	Noted 15/05/80 - on 15.38 St. Pancras – Bedford³
	51618	59611	59629	51633	Noted 16/05/80 - on 15.38 St. Pancras – Bedford³
	51618	59611	59629	51633	Noted 20/06/80 - on 09.40 Bedford – Luton³
	51618	59611	59629	51648	Noted 24/06/80 - on 05.35 Bedford - Cricklewood ³
	51592	59611	59629	51627	Noted 04/07/80 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood³
	51592	59611	59629	51627	Noted 22/07/80 - on 19.25 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59629	51636	Noted 20/08/80 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59629	51650	Noted 06/09/80 - on 15.17 Cricklewood – Luton³
	51615	59611	59629	51650	Noted 12/09/80 - on 13.49 Cricklewood – St. Pancras³
	51615	59611	59629	51650	Noted 15/09/80 - on 17.44 St. Pancras – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59629	51650	Noted 25/09/80 - on 17.03 St. Pancras – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59629	51650	Noted 27/09/80 - on 23.10 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59629	51650	Noted 07/10/80 - on 23.10 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59629	51623	Noted 06/11/80 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51623	59611	59638	51649	Noted 17/11/80 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood³
	51592	59611	59638	51644	Noted 06/01/81 - on 2H12 16.05 St. Pancras – Luton³
	51592	59611	59638	51644	Noted 17/01/81 - on 2H06 11.05 St Pancras – Luton³
	51592	59611	59638	51644	Noted 21/01/81 - on 2H09 12.57 St Pancras – Luton, 2C41 14.00 Luton – St. Pancras and 2G14 15.38 St. Pancras – Bedford³
	51592	59611	59638	51644	Noted 30/01/81 - on 2H08 11.57 St Pancras – Luton³
	51592	59611	59638	51638	Noted 19/02/81 - on 2K05 17.44 St. Pancras – St Albans³
	51592	59611	59638	51638	Noted 08/03/81 - on 2G03 08.15 St Pancras – Bedford³
	51592	59611	59638	51638	Noted 13/03/81 - on 2C21 08.11 St Albans – St Pancras³
	51595	59611	59638	51625	Noted 20/03/81 - on 14.00 2C42 Bedford – St Pancras³
	51595	59611	59638	51625	Noted 24/03/81 - on 2G03 05.35 St Pancras – Bedford³
	51595	59611	59638	51625	Noted 28/03/81 - on 2C03 02.30 Bedford – St Pancras (staff)³
	51625	59611	59638	51636	Noted 01/04/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St Pancras – Bedford (staff) and 2C57 21.15 Luton – St Pancras³
	51625	59611	59638	51636	Noted 10/04/81 - on 2C03 02.30 Bedford – St Pancras (staff)³
	51615	59611	59648		Noted 23/04/81 - on 2C06 04:55 Luton - St Pancras, other power car not recorded³
	51642	59611	59638	51643	Noted 11/05/81 - on 2H12 16.05 St. Pancras – Luton³
	51615	59611	59638	51633	Noted 29/06/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras³
	51615	59611	59638	51633	Noted 30/06/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras³
	51615	59611	59638	51633	Noted 17/07/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St Pancras – Bedford³
	51615	59611	59638	51633	Noted 21/07/81 - on 2H13 16.29 St Pancras – Luton and 5G24 17.25 Luton – St. Pancras (ECS for part of 2G24 18.27 Bedford)³
	51616	59611	59638	51638	Noted 02/09/81 - on 5C05 02.58 Cricklewood CS – Luton ECS, 2C05 04.00 Luton – St Pancras (staff) and 2G03 05.35 St Pancras – Bedford³
	51603	59605	59611	51617	Noted 05/02/82 - on 22.34 Cricklewood – Bedford (two TSLs)³
	51603	59605	59611	51617	Noted 28/02/82 - on 10.50 St. Pancras – Kentish Town (two TSLs)³
	51635	59611	59625	51646	Noted 27/08/82 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51635	59611	59625	51646	Noted 31/08/82 - on 15.00 Bedford – Luton³
	51635	59611	59625	51646	Noted 02/09/82 - on 15.00 Bedford – Luton³
	51635	59611	59625	51646	Noted 03/09/82 - on 16.03 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51625	59611	59625	51635	Noted 14/09/82 - on a Cricklewood – Bedford working³
	51625	59611	59625	51635	Noted 18/09/82 - on 22.23 St. Pancras – Cricklewood³
	51625	59611	59625	51635	Noted 28/09/82 - on 16.03 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51627	59611	59625	51625	Noted circa 10/1982⁴
	51625	59611	59625	51635	Noted 06/10/82 - on 04.25 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51625	59611	59625	51627	Noted 02/11/82 - on 14.05 Bedford – Luton³
	51615	59611	59625	51625	Noted 22/11/82 - on 22.25 St. Pancras – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59625	51625	Noted 04/12/82 - on 11.25 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51615	59611	59625	51625	Noted 06/12/82 - on 17.25 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51625	59611	59625	51627	Noted 08/12/82 - on 17.25 Luton – Cricklewood³
	51624	59611	59625	51642	Noted circa 01/1983⁴
	51624	59611	51625	51642	Noted 08/01/83 - on 15.24 Luton – Bedford³
	51597	59611	59625	51624	Noted 31/01/83 - on 16.50 St. Pancras – St. Albans and 18.00 St. Albans – Cricklewood³
	51597	59625	59611	51625	Noted circa 02/1983⁴
	51597	59611	59625	51625	Noted 07/02/83 - on 06.15 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51597	59611	59625	51625	Noted 08/02/83 - on 06.15 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51625	59611	59625	51634	Noted 08/03/83 - on 06.15 Bedford – Cricklewood and 12.39 Cricklewood – St. Pancras³
	51625	59611	59625	51634	Noted 09/03/83 - on 06.15 Bedford – Cricklewood and 12.39 Cricklewood – St. Pancras³
	51628	59611	59625	51634	Noted 15/04/83 - on 22.35 Cricklewood – Bedford³
	51628	59611	59625	51634	Noted circa 05/1983⁴
	51627	59611	59625	51634	Noted circa 05/1983⁴
	51596	59611	59625	51634	Noted 24/05/83 - on 02.06 Cricklewood – Bedford³
	51593	59611	59625	51634	Noted 12/06/83 - on 06.20 Bedford – Cricklewood³
	51611	59611	59639	51634	Noted 05/07/83 - on 18:15 Gospel Oak - Barking.
	51611	59611	59639	51634	Noted 09/07/83 - on 16.00 St. Pancras – Cricklewood³
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted circa 06/1984⁴
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted 09/06/1984 - BR Ruddington Requiem Railtour 53190-59130-53857 + 53055-59611-53116 + 53318-59114-53328
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted circa 10/1984⁴
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted circa 01/1985⁴
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Listed at TS - May-85
	53055	59611	53116		Noted 13/07/85 - at Norwich²
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted circa 11/1985⁴
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Listed at Tyseley - Summer 1986
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted 01/06/1986 - Coalville Depot open day shuttles to and from Leicester TS611+TS615
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted 05/07/86 - at Norwich²
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted 23/04/1987 - at Birmingham New Street - as 4 car set with TS053⁵
TS611	53055	59611	53116		Noted circa 06/1987⁴
T611	53055	59611	53116		Listed at TS - Jul-87
T418	51880	59611	59643	53116	Formation change - TS - 2w/e 13/03/88 - 59611, 59643, 53116 added
T418	51880	59643	59611	53116	Listed at Tyseley - 7th April 1988
T418	51880	59643	59611	53116	Noted 02/07/88 - at Norwich²
T418	51880	59611	59643	53116	Noted circa 05/1989⁴
T418	51880	59643	59611	53116	Listed at TS - 01/09/89
T305	51368	59611	51410		Listed at TS - 01/12/89
	53071	59611	53880		Noted 06/05/1990 - at Tyseley depot⁶
T322	53071	59611	53880		Listed at TS - mid May-90
T407	51870	59594	59611	53916	Noted circa 12/1990⁴
T320	51138	59611	53890		Listed at TS - Jul-91
T320	51138	59611	53890		Listed at TS - Aug-91
T320	51138	59611	53890		Listed at TS - Dec-91
T320	51138	59611	53881		Noted 15/05/92 - on 12:58 Longbridge - Lichfield City
spare	59611				Listed at TS - 02/07/92
T320	51138	59611	53101		Noted circa 08/1992⁴
T320	51138	59611	53101		Listed at - 24/09/92
T405	53101	59611	51138	53897	Listed at TS - November 1992
T405	51138	59611	53897	53101	Noted 02/11/1992⁴
T405	51138	59611	53897		Noted 29/11/1992⁴
T405	53101	59611	51138	53897	Listed at TS - 10/12/92
T325	53818	59611	53132		Noted circa 04/1993⁴
T325	53818	59611	53132		Noted 01/05/93

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Gerald Brown
3: Phil Shatford
4: Eddie Knorn
5: Robert Chilton
6: Jeremy Goodyear

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The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: 5th July 1983

51634 with set 59639 + 59611 + 51611 waiting at Gospel Oak on 5/07/83 with the 18:15 service for Barking. Shayne Lewis.

Date: 9th June 1984

Set number: TS600

The Ruddington Requiem railtour at East Leake (GCR) on 9/6/84. It was formed 53910 + 59130 + 53857 / 53055 + 59611 + 53116 / 53318 + 59114 + 53328. Mel Smith.

Date: 9th June 1984

Set number: TS600

The Ruddington Requiem railtour at Lawfield on 9/6/84. It was formed 53910 + 59130 + 53857, 53055 + 59611 + 53116, 53318 + 59114 + 53328. Chris Lings.

Date: 4th May 1985

Set number: TS061

TS061 (presumably 55011) leads Class 116 set TS611 (including 53055 + 59611) at Dorridge on 4 May 1985. 54A South Dock.

Date: 4th May 1985

A mixed DMU formation with "WM" branding, led by a Class 122 "Bubble Car" approaches Warwick on a working to Leamington Spa on 4th May 1985. While the bubble is unknown, the Class 116 is easily identifiable as set TS611 (53055 + 59611 + 53116). Bob Belcher.

Date: 10th June 1985

Set number: TS611

Class 116 set TS611 (53116 presumably with 59611 + 53055) with an afternoon Birmingham Moor St - Stratford Upon Avon service waiting time at Small Heath on Monday 10th June 1985. Colin Brooks.

Date: 31st August 1985

Set number: TS611

Set TS611, headed by DMS 53116 (presumably with 59611 and 53055), all in an experimental WMPTE, (WM) livery, on the last few yards of its journey into Hereford, past the yard, with a passenger service from the Worcester direction. 31st August 1985. John Crooks.

Date: 7th September 1985

Set number: TS611

On 7 September 1985, a derailment at Carnforth led to severe delays to trains between Scotland and England, resulting in this 6-car dmu formation running in the path of a the Glasgow / Dundee - Poole service between Birmingham and Reading. Seen at Oxford, closest is the distinct Class 116 set TS611 (53116/59611/53055). On the rear appears to be a 116/101/116 hybrid. On the right is a Class 121 bubble. Robert28194.

Date: 7th September 1985

A Birmingham - Reading DMU (one set formed of class 116 and 101 vehicles, the far set is TS611 presumably 53055 + 59611 + 53116) running in the path of a heavily delayed service from Scotland to the South Coast pauses at Oxford. 7th September 1985. Robert28194.

Date: 24th February 1986

Set number: TS611

Class 116 set TS611 53055 + 59611 + 53611 at Leamington Spa on 24/02/86. Roddy MacPhee.

Date: 1st June 1986

Set number: TS611

TS611 (53055 presumably with 59611 + 53116) in it's unusual livery seen at Coalville depot on the 1st June 1986 when it was working shuttles to Leicester and Burton-on-Trent for the open day. Chris Lings.

Date: 14th June 1986

Set number: TS611

In the summer of 1986 there was a dated train between Birmingham New Street and Barry Island. Two 3 car class 116s from Tyseley were used for this service and on 14 June 1986 the leading set (TS 611, 53055 + 59611 + 53116), pictured at Longbridge, was one of the sets with a slightly modified paint job on the front end. It's amazing what a difference a few brush strokes makes to the appearance of an otherwise standard unit. I suspect that the passenger accomodation for this long journey was a sight more comfortable in 1986 than would be provided in 2020 for an equivalent trip. Peter Tandy.

Date: 3rd July 1986

Set number: TS611

One of my favourite morning shots at Stratford-upon-Avon was this taken with the bracket signal prominent in the picture. The DMU is Tyseley set 611 (53116/59611/53055) which stood out amongst the other becauses of a slightly different paint job on the front window surround and the West Midlands PTE logo on the yellow front end. The date was 3 July 1986 with the unit was arriving at Stratford-upon-Avon forming the 06.20 from Birmingham Moor Street. Peter Tandy.

Date: 12th July 1986

Set number: TS611

The unusually liveried class 116 DMS 53116 at the head of set TS611 formed with class 127 TSL 59611 and class 116 DMBS 53055, at Birmingham New Street on 12/Jul/1986. I recall that 53055 at the other end of the set was painted to match and I wondered at the time whether on one or other driving car the livery was inspired by a mistake in the grey band being taken too far beyond the saloon windows and then taken complete with white lining round the cab ends to make the best of a bad job. Having said that, the black cab window surrounds and the fact that the sides of every car and the cab ends were emblazoned with 'WM' logos probably suggests that it was a deliberate attempt at a special livery. Robert Chilton.

Date: 6th September 1986

Class 116 units M53116 + M59611 + M53055 / M53837 + M59604 + M53919 at Tapton Junction, Chesterfield on the 6th September 1986 with a Birmingham New Street-Sheffield football excursion. Kevin Law.

Date: 18th July 1987

A Class 116 / 127 hybrid set (53116 + 59611 + 53055) working a Leicester - Scarborough service at Rotherham Masborough on 18 July 1987. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 19th September 1987

Set number: TS611

Taken on 19/9/87 at Birmingham Moor Street, a week before closure of the terminal platforms, class 116 set TS611 (53055 and presumably 59611 + 53116) waits to leave for Dorridge. The platforms reopened in 2010 and the station is now the 2nd busiest in Birmingham and arguably the best!! Stephen Burdett.

Date: 2nd July 1988

Set number: T418

Class 115/127 set T418 51880 + 59643 + 59611 seen on Ely West curve with the 10.20 Yarmouth to Birmingham on 2nd July 1988. Nicholas Youngman.

Date: 15th May 1992

Set number: T320

T320 (53881 + 59611 + 51138) at Birmingham New St with the 12:58 Longbridge - Lichfield City, 15th May 1992. Gazza Prescott.

Date: 6th August 1992

Set number: T320

Set T320 (51138 + 59611 + 53101) at Five Ways with the 16:14 New St. - Longbridge on the 6th August 1992. Gazza Prescott.

Date: 29th November 1992

Set number: T405

Class 116 DMBS 51138 leading set T405, formed as a three-car with TSL 59611 (Cl.127) and DMS 53897, seen at Birmingham New Street on the last advertised day of first generation DMU services on the Cross City Line. Robert Chilton.

Date: 15th April 1993

Set number: T325

T325 (53818 + 59611 + 53132 ) leaves Lichfield TV with the 14:35 Coventry-Stoke on Trent, 15/4/93. Gazza Prescott.

Date: 1st May 1993

Set number: T325

T325 (53818 + 59611 + 53132) at Coventry on the 14:35 to Stoke on Trent, 1/5/93. Gazza Prescott.

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