close

Sign In


Not registered?
Forgot Your Password?

<- 51616 | 51617 | 51618 ->

Vehicle 51617


Class 127

Builder: BR Derby Works
Layout: High Density
Length: 64ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square / Red Triangle
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: None
Engines: Rolls Royce 238hp
Transmission: Hydraulic
Lot Number: 30521
Diagram: 588

Allocations

05/09/59 New to Chaddesden - stabled pending allocation
5w/e 02/01/60 Stored Derby Friargate
4w/e 30/01/60 Transfer 14A (Cricklewood)
06/05/73Depot code changeCW
12/12/82 Withdrawn from CW (Cricklewood)

Notes

1985 - 51617 was used by the LMR RM&EE department at Derby during the design stages of the Class 127 DPU roller shutter door modification programme.

51617 was involved in the following incident:


8/11/77 - Napsbury, LMR

Collision involving Class 127 / Class 127

Info from Peter Mullen

A set (5C26) travelling from Bedford to St. Pancras collided at about 40mph with the rear of a St. Albans to St. Pancras empty coaching stock train (2C65) which was standing at a signal. The collision resulted in the derailment of the two leading coaches of the passenger train as well as the rear coach of the empty stock train. The driver, guard and two passengers in the passenger train were injured and taken to hospital. Both trains were 4-car Class 127 DMUs comprising of vehicles 51626, 59609, 59643 and 51641 (5C26) and 51617, 59617, 59631 and 51601 (2C65) respectively. The accident was a result of the signalman forgetting about the stationary train at the St. Albans Up Slow Starting Signal and instructing the driver of the passenger train to pass the St. Albans Inner Home signal at Danger into an already occupied section.


Disposal

Scrapped by Booth Roe Metals, Rotherham

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:


51617 59602 59632 51618 As delivered to Chaddesden sidings - 5th September 1959 - stabled pending allocation
51596 59643 59603 51617 Noted 01/09/1962 - Kettering1
51640 59604 59643 51617 Noted 17/07/1965 - South of Bedford on Midland Line1
51608 59625 59592 51617 Noted 20/03/71 - at Luton2
51602 59612 59636 51617 Noted 02/09/71 - at St Pancras2
51596 59618 59626 51617 Noted 17/01/76 - on 20.10 Bedford – Luton3
51591 59618 59645 51617 Noted 06/03/76 - on 06.15 Bedford – St. Pancras3
51617 59605 59646 51644 Noted 21/02/79 - on 21.54 Cricklewood – St. Pancras3
51617 59606 59636 51627 Noted 11/03/79 - on 11.57 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51617 59606 59636 51627 Noted 14/03/79 - on 23.10 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51617 59606 59636 51627 Noted 16/03/79 - on 09.15 Cricklewood – Luton with 51603 + 59591 + 59628 + 516503
51617 59606 59636 51627 Noted 24/03/79 - on 03.34 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51617 59606 59636 51627 Noted 29/03/79 - on 09.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood with 51608 + 59592 + 59634 + 516453
51603 59597 59636 51617 Noted 22/04/79 - on 19.50 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51603 59597 59636 51617 Noted 23/04/79 - on 03.34 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51603 59597 59636 51617 Noted 24/04/79 - on 18.22 Luton – Cricklewood3
51603 59597 59636 51617 Noted 28/04/79 - on 17.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood with 51607 + 59594 + 59641 + 516243
51603 59597 59636 51617 Noted 09/05/79 - on 14.00 Bedford – Luton3
51615 59614 59634 51617 Noted 25/05/79 - on 15.03 Luton – Cricklewood3
51605 59609 59631 51617 Noted 20/06/79 - on 03.31 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51614 59609 59631 51617 Noted 11/07/79 - on 19.17 Cricklewood – St. Albans3
51614 59609 59631 51617 Noted 12/07/79 - on 11.00 Bedford – Luton3
51614 59609 59631 51617 Noted 12/07/79 - on 13.09 Cricklewood – Luton3
51614 59609 59631 51617 Noted 13/07/79 - on 17.56 Cricklewood – St. Albans3
51614 59609 59631 51617 Noted 24/08/79 - on 06.47 Cricklewood – Luton and 22.40 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51614 59609 59631 51617 Noted 27/08/79 - on 19.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
51598 59598 59645 51617 Noted 27/09/79 - on 12.00 Bedford – Luton3
51617 59598 59645 51637 Noted 13/10/79 - on 21.35 Cricklewood – Luton3
51617 59598 59645 51637 Noted 19/10/79 - on 23.10 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51617 59598 59645 51637 Noted 22/10/79 - on a St. Pancras - Bedford service3
51617 59598 59645 51637 Noted 23/10/79 - on a St. Pancras - Bedford service3
51617 59598 59645 51637 Noted 24/10/79 - on 12.03 Luton – Cricklewood3
51617 59598 59645 51637 Noted 25/10/79 - on 12.03 Luton – Cricklewood3
51617 59614 59634 51648 Noted 05/11/79 - on 11.00 Bedford – Luton and 20.27 Luton – Bedford3
51617 59614 59634 51648 Noted 06/11/79 - on 12.03 Luton – Cricklewood3
51598 59595 59647 51617 Noted 12/02/80 - on 12.57 St. Pancras – Cricklewood and 15.35 St. Pancras – Bedford3
51617 59592 59621 51643 Noted 18/03/80 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood3
51617 59592 59621 51643 Noted 21/03/80 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood3
51617 59610 59648 51645 Noted 31/03/80 - on a Bedford – Cricklewood working3
51616 59594 59620 51617 Noted 25/05/80 - on 07.15 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51616 59594 59620 51617 Noted 01/06/80 - on 12.02 Cricklewood – Elstree and 16.42 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51607 59594 59620 51617 Noted 12/06/80 - on 01.54 St. Pancras – Bedford3
51607 59592 59620 51617 Noted 22/06/80 - on 14.42 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51607 59592 59620 51617 Noted 29/06/80 - on 19.40 St. Pancras – Bedford3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 21/07/80 - on 19.25 Luton – Cricklewood3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 13/08/80 - on 22.12 Luton – Bedford3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 28/08/80 - on 21.31 Kentish Town – St. Pancras3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 03/09/80 - on 05.35 Bedford – Cricklewood and 07.17 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 05/09/80 - on 13.16 Luton – Bedford3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 07/09/80 - on 07.41 Flitwick – Cricklewood3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 08/09/80 - on 20.15 Kentish Town – St. Pancras3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 12/09/80 - on 11.00 Bedford – Luton3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 19/09/80 - on 02.05 Cricklewood – Bedford and 23.27 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51599 59589 59644 51617 Noted 23/09/80 - on 17.44 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
51617 59598 59648 51619 Noted 01/11/80 - on 20.45 Luton – Cricklewood3
51617 59603 59633 51644 Noted 15/12/80 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51617 59603 59633 51644 Noted 18/12/80 - on 10.09 Cricklewood – Luton3
51604 59604 59625 51617 Noted 12/01/81 - on 2G10 11.27 St Pancras – Bedford3
51604 59604 59625 51617 Noted 22/01/81 - on 2C39 13.00 Luton – St Pancras3
51604 59604 59625 51617 Noted 23/01/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras3
51604 59604 59625 51617 Noted 28/01/81 - on 2C14 07.30 St. Albans – St Pancras3
51617 59604 59625 51635 Noted 14/02/81 - on 2G11 11.35 St Pancras – Bedford3
51617 59604 59625 51635 Noted 16/02/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St. Pancras – Bedford (Staff)3
51617 59604 59625 51635 Noted 20/02/81 - on 2G27 19.37 St Pancras – Bedford3
51617 59604 59625 51635 Noted 22/02/81 - on 2C08 10.30 Bedford – St Pancras and 2G13 17.40 St Pancras – Bedford3
51617 59604 59625 51635 Noted 28/02/81 - on 2C10 06.40 Bedford – St Pancras3
51592 59607 59639 51617 Noted 24/03/81 - on 2G04 06.35 St Pancras – Bedford3
51592 59607 59639 51617 Noted 25/03/81 - on 2C45 23.10 Bedford – St Pancras3
51592 59589 59629 51617 Noted 07/04/81 - on 2C02 01.45 Bedford – St Pancras (staff)3
51592 59589 59629 51617 Noted 09/04/81 - on 2H06 09.57 St Pancras – Luton3
51592 59589 59629 51617 Noted 23/04/81 - on 2C02 01.45 Bedford – St Pancras (staff)3
51617 59592 59641 51620 Noted 19/05/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St Pancras – Bedford (staff) and 2C57 21.15 Luton – St Pancras3
51617 59597 59634 51644 Noted 29/06/81 - on 2H17 20.55 St Pancras – Luton3
51617 59597 59634 51644 Noted 07/07/81 - on 2H02 06.05 St Pancras – Luton3
51617 59597 59634 51644 Noted 20/07/81 - on 2H13 16.29 St Pancras – Luton and 5G24 17.25 Luton – St Pancras (ECS for part of 2G24 18:27 Bedford)3
51617 59597 59634 51644 Noted 22/07/81 - on 2H13 16.29 St Pancras – Luton and 5G24 17.25 Luton – St Pancras (ECS for part of 2G24 18.27 Bedford)3
51617 59597 59634 51644 Noted 29/07/81 - on 2C36 11.00 Bedford – St Pancras3
51617 59604 59647 51644 Noted 24/08/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras3
51617 59604 59647 51644 Noted 28/08/81 - on 2G26 19.27 St Pancras – Bedford3
51617 59604 59647 51644 Noted 28/09/81 - on 2C61 23.10 Bedford – St Pancras3
51603 59600 59626 51617 Noted 18/01/82 - on 11.57 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
51603 59600 59626 51617 Noted 19/01/82 - on 13.57 St. Pancras – Cricklewood3
51603 59605 59611 51617 Noted 05/02/82 - on 22.34 Cricklewood – Bedford (two TSLs)3
51603 59605 59611 51617 Noted 28/02/82 - on 10.50 St. Pancras – Kentish Town (two TSLs)3
51617 59600 59629 51644 Noted 14/03/82 - on 14.42 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51617 59594 59629 51644 Noted 28/03/82 - on 10.30 Bedford – Cricklewood and 16.32 Cricklewood – St. Pancras 3
51617 59614 59619 51637 Noted 13/04/82 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood and 13.16 Luton – Bedford3
51617 59614 59619 51637 Noted 18/04/82 - on 10.02 Cricklewood – Radlett3
51617 59614 59619 51637 Noted circa 05/19824
51617 59614 59619 51637 Noted 07/05/82 - on 10.16 Luton – Bedford3
51598 59637 59602 51617 Noted circa 06/19824
51598 59607 59632 51617 Noted 25/06/82 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51598 59602 59633 51617 Noted 27/06/82 - on 12.34 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51617 59614 59646 51627 Noted 19/08/82 - on 03.30 Cricklewood – Bedford3
51617 59614 59646 51627 Noted 30/08/82 - on 13.00 Bedford – Cricklewood3
51617 59614 59646 51627 Noted 05/09/82 - on 08.27 Cricklewood – St. Pancras and 09.10 St. Pancras – Bedford3
51607 59592 59647 51617 Noted 01/02/83 - on 16.50 St. Pancras – Luton and 17.55 Luton – St. Pancras 3

Formation Sources
1: Tony Fowkes / BRCS
2: Leonard Rogers
3: Phil Shatford
4: Eddie Knorn

Images:

Class 127 DMU at St Pancras

Unknown date

A Class 127 DMU with M51617 closest seen at St Pancras, date unknown. Paul Redmond.

Class 127 DMU at Bedford

19th March 1981

With a clue to the vehicle number being shown in the headcode Class 127 DMBS M51617 is seen in Bedford station on 19 March 1981. Rob Edwards.

Class 127 DMU at Derby St Marys

April 1985

M51617 in Derby St. Marys in April 1985. On both sides are Class 120 trailer buffets, on the left M59273 and M59680. Ian Francis.


The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

DMU

Date: April 1985

Class 120 buffet car (with 'Buffet' painted over) had a broken window when seen at Derby St Marys in April 1985. It had been withdrawn from DY at the end of 1983. 51617 on the left had also been withdrawn in 1983. Ian Francis.

                                                                                                                                                                             


➤