Builder: BR Derby Works
Layout: High Density
Length: 64ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square / Red Triangle
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: None
Lot Number: 30522
Diagram: 589
The London Midland Region didn't publish trailer car details until late in 1968. Although not 100% reliable, if it is assumed that the trailers remained with the same power cars, the allocations for 51621 during the unknown period are:
12/09/59 | New to | Chaddesden | - stabled pending allocation |
Dec-59 | Transferred to | 14A (Cricklewood) |
Then the allocations for 59604 are:
31/08/83 | Transferred to | TS (Tyseley) | |
04/10/93 | Transferred to | HQ (Headquarters) RFXX | |
15/10/93 | Withdrawn from | HQ (Headquarters) RFXX |
Scrapped by Booth Roe Metals, Rotherham after being at Coopers Metals, Attercliffe, since May 1994
51621 | 59604 | 59634 | 51622 | As delivered to Chaddesden sidings - 12th September 1959 - stabled pending allocation | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59620 | 51650 | Noted 25/08/74 - at Cricklewood1 | |||||
51612 | 59644 | 59604 | 51631 | Noted 23/08/75 - at Kentish Town1 | |||||
51602 | 59604 | 59637 | 51624 | Noted 03/04/76 - on 05.17 Bedford – St. Pancras2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59642 | 51642 | Noted 11/01/79 - on 12.57 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51625 | 59604 | 59644 | 51645 | Noted 15/01/79 - on 14.09 Cricklewood – Luton2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59642 | 51642 | Noted 08/02/79 - on 07.32 St. Albans – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59642 | 51611 | Noted 21/02/79 - on 13.00 Bedford – Luton2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59642 | 51611 | Noted 22/02/79 - on 20.07 Cricklewood – St. Albans2 | |||||
51593 | 59602 | 59604 | 51642 | Noted 08/03/79 - on 18.22 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51606 | 59602 | 59604 | 51642 | Noted 13/03/79 - on 11.15 Luton – Bedford with 51611 + 59595 + 59634 + 516262 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59633 | 51643 | Noted 04/04/79 - on 12.03 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59633 | 51643 | Noted 06/04/79 - on 12.03 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59633 | 51643 | Noted 06/04/79 - on 19.27 St. Pancras – Bedford with 51621 + 59612 + 59627 + 516492 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59633 | 51643 | Noted 12/04/79 - on 17.59 Cricklewood – St. Pancras2 | |||||
51596 | 59604 | 59633 | 51620 | Noted 14/06/79 - on 01.40 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51596 | 59604 | 59633 | 51620 | Noted 04/07/79 - on 18.57 St. Albans – Bedford with 51625 + 59595 + 59626 516492 | |||||
51605 | 59604 | 59633 | 51635 | Noted 14/08/79 - on 15.03 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51626 | 59604 | 59621 | 51638 | Noted 10/09/79 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51607 | 59604 | 59621 | 51647 | Noted 19/09/79 - on 22.40 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51603 | 59604 | 59641 | 51614 | Noted 29/11/79 - on 21.15 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51603 | 59604 | 59641 | 51614 | Noted 04/01/80 - on a Bedford – Cricklewood working2 | |||||
51592 | 59604 | 59641 | 51635 | Noted 15/01/80 - on 19.17 Cricklewood – Luton2 | |||||
51604 | 59604 | 59641 | 51644 | Noted 13/02/80 - on 19.38 Luton – Bedford2 | |||||
51628 | 59604 | 59641 | 51644 | Noted 25/02/80 - on 15.35 St. Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51628 | 59604 | 59641 | 51644 | Noted 02/03/80 - on 10.06 Cricklewood – St. Albans2 | |||||
51614 | 59604 | 59640 | 51644 | Noted 24/03/80 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51626 | 59604 | 59646 | 51644 | Noted 03/05/80 - on 19.40 Bedford – Luton2 | |||||
51626 | 59604 | 59646 | 51644 | Noted 05/05/80 - on 14.16 Luton – Bedford2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 16/06/80 - on 05.35 Bedford – Cricklewood and 12.39 Cricklewood – St. Pancras 2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 17/06/80 - on 15.16 Luton – Bedford2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 19/06/80 - on 12.00 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 02/07/80 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 10/07/80 - on 12.15 St. Albans – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 11/07/80 - on 12.00 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 18/07/80 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51597 | 59604 | 59621 | 51646 | Noted 20/07/80 - on 19.52 Cricklewood – Bedford2 | |||||
51591 | 59604 | 59620 | 51607 | Noted 13/08/80 - on 20.59 Kentish Town – Luton2 | |||||
51591 | 59604 | 59620 | 51607 | Noted 15/08/80 - on 15.00 Bedford – Luton2 | |||||
51591 | 59604 | 59620 | 51592 | Noted 08/09/80 - on 12.00 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51604 | 59604 | 59625 | 51617 | Noted 12/01/81 - on 2G10 11.27 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51604 | 59604 | 59625 | 51617 | Noted 22/01/81 - on 2C39 13.00 Luton – St Pancras2 | |||||
51604 | 59604 | 59625 | 51617 | Noted 23/01/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras2 | |||||
51604 | 59604 | 59625 | 51617 | Noted 28/01/81 - on 2C14 07.30 St. Albans – St Pancras2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 14/02/81 - on 2G11 11.35 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 16/02/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St. Pancras – Bedford (Staff)2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 20/02/81 - on 2G27 19.37 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 22/02/81 - on 2C08 10.30 Bedford – St Pancras and 2G13 17.40 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 28/02/81 - on 2C10 06.40 Bedford – St Pancras2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 12/03/81 - on 2C17 07.47 Luton – St Pancras2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 13/03/81 - on 2C17 07.47 Luton – St Pancras2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 17/03/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 19/03/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 31/03/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St Pancras – Bedford (staff) and 2C57 21.15 Luton – St Pancras2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51635 | Noted 07/04/81 - on 2C35 11.00 Luton – St Pancras2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51643 | Noted 10/04/81 - on 2G09 10.27 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51621 | 59604 | 59625 | 51643 | Noted 15/04/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras2 | |||||
51616 | 59604 | 59622 | 51638 | Noted 13/05/81 - on 2H12 16.05 St Pancras – Luton2 | |||||
51616 | 59604 | 59622 | 51638 | Noted 20/05/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St Pancras – Bedford (Staff) and 2C57 21.15 Luton – St Pancras. 59604 unconfirmed.2 | |||||
51592 | 59604 | 59622 | 51618 | Noted 12/06/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St Pancras – Bedford (staff) and 2C57 21.15 Luton – St Pancras2 | |||||
51592 | 59604 | 59622 | 51618 | Noted 28/06/81 - on 2G06 10.50 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51592 | 59604 | 59622 | 51618 | Noted 01/07/81 - on 2H17 20.15 Luton – St Pancras and 2G29 21.25 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51616 | 59604 | 59622 | 51618 | Noted 10/07/81 - on 2H02 06.05 St Pancras – Luton2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59622 | 51618 | Noted 24/07/81 - on 2H13 16.29 St Pancras – Luton and 5G24 17.25 Luton – St Pancras (ECS for part of 2G24 18.27 Bedford)2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59622 | 51618 | Noted 17/08/81 - on 2K02 17.03 St Pancras – St Albans2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59647 | 51644 | Noted 24/08/81 - on 2C42 14.00 Bedford – St Pancras2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59647 | 51644 | Noted 28/08/81 - on 2G26 19.27 St Pancras – Bedford2 | |||||
51617 | 59604 | 59647 | 51644 | Noted 28/09/81 - on 2C61 23.10 Bedford – St Pancras2 | |||||
51623 | 59604 | 59647 | 51649 | Noted 14/10/81 - on 2C03 02.30 Bedford – St Pancras (staff)2 | |||||
51623 | 59604 | 59647 | 51649 | Noted 16/10/81 - on 2H32 07.44 St Pancras – Harpenden and 2C26 08.47 Harpenden – St Pancras2 | |||||
51623 | 59604 | 59647 | 51649 | Noted 21/10/81 - on 2G02 03.20 St Pancras – Bedford (staff)2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59647 | 51624 | Noted 25/01/82 - on 09.40 Bedford – Luton and 11.39 Cricklewood – West Hampstead2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59647 | 51624 | Noted 05/02/82 - on 16.05 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59647 | 51624 | Noted 10/02/82 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59647 | 51624 | Noted 12/02/82 - on 13.09 Cricklewood – Luton2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59621 | 51624 | Noted 01/03/82 - on 07.30 St. Albans – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59621 | 51624 | Noted 19/03/82 - on 09.57 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59621 | 51624 | Noted 21/03/82 - on 06.20 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51599 | 59604 | 59621 | 51624 | Noted 26/03/82 - on 12.39 Cricklewood – St. Pancras2 | |||||
51605 | 59604 | 59621 | 51624 | Noted 10/04/82 - on 22.40 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51605 | 59604 | 59622 | 51624 | Noted 13/04/82 - on 12.09 Cricklewood – Luton2 | |||||
51605 | 59604 | 59622 | 51624 | Noted circa 05/19823 | |||||
51605 | 59604 | 59622 | 51627 | Noted 02/05/82 - on 04.02 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51592 | 59604 | 59622 | 51608 | Noted 09/06/82 - on 11.36 Cricklewood – Bedford2 | |||||
51592 | 59604 | 59622 | 51608 | Noted 22/06/82 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51600 | 59604 | 59622 | 51608 | Noted 09/08/82 - on 12.36 Cricklewood – Bedford2 | |||||
51596 | 59604 | 59636 | 51606 | Noted 06/09/82 - on 16.45 Cricklewood – St. Pancras2 | |||||
51591 | 59604 | 59622 | 51607 | Noted 29/09/82 - on 16.03 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51591 | 59604 | 59622 | 51603 | Noted circa 10/19823 | |||||
51591 | 59604 | 59622 | 51607 | Noted 03/11/82 - on 15.00 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59627 | 51649 | Noted 10/11/82 - on 13.00 Luton – Cricklewood and 14.09 Cricklewood – Luton2 | |||||
51593 | 59627 | 59604 | 51649 | Noted circa 12/19823 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59627 | 51649 | Noted 02/12/82 - on 12.00 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59627 | 51649 | Noted 04/12/82 - on 10.15 Bedford – Luton2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59627 | 51649 | Noted 22/12/82 - on 10.09 Cricklewood – St. Pancras2 | |||||
51593 | 59604 | 59627 | 51649 | Noted 23/12/82 - on 02.30 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51612 | 59604 | 59627 | 51646 | Noted 04/01/83 - on 13.18 Luton – Bedford2 | |||||
51612 | 59604 | 59627 | 51646 | Noted 08/01/83 - on 06.40 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51612 | 59604 | 59627 | 51646 | Noted 25/01/83 - on 20.46 St. Albans – Bedford2 | |||||
51612 | 59604 | 59627 | 51646 | Noted 27/01/83 - on 13.27 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51612 | 59604 | 59622 | 51646 | Noted 18/02/83 - on 20.10 Bedford – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51612 | 59604 | 59622 | 51646 | Noted 24/02/83 - on 16.50 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51612 | 59604 | 59622 | 51646 | Noted 02/03/83 - on 12.00 Luton – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51604 | 59604 | 59622 | 51625 | Noted 03/06/83 - on 03.41 Cricklewood CS – St. Pancras2 | |||||
51596 | 59604 | 59622 | 51604 | Noted 08/06/83 - on 09.50 St. Pancras – Cricklewood2 | |||||
51596 | 59604 | 59622 | 51604 | Noted 15/06/83 - on 20.12 Cricklewood – Luton2 | |||||
TS544 | 53854 | 59604 | 53907 | Noted circa 09/19833 | |||||
TS544 | 53854 | 59604 | 53907 | Noted circa 11/19833 | |||||
TS621 | 53866 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted circa 01/19853 | |||||
TS621 | 53866 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at TS - May-85 | |||||
53866 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted 01/09/1985 - 17.10 Chester-Wolverhampton4 | ||||||
TS621 | 53866 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted circa 12/19853 | |||||
TS621 | 53837 | 59604 | 53919 | Formation change - TS - circa Feb-86 - 53837 replaced 53866 | |||||
TS621 | 53837 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted circa 02/19863 | |||||
TS621 | 53837 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at Tyseley - Summer 1986 | |||||
TS621 | 53837 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted 05/07/86 - at Norwich1 | |||||
TS621 | 53837 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted 09/08/86 - at Norwich1 | |||||
TS621 | 53837 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted 16/05/87 - at Norwich1 | |||||
T621 | 53837 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at TS - Jul-87 | |||||
T404 | 51853 | 59445 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted circa 01/19883 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59604 | 59445 | 53919 | Listed at Tyseley - 7th April 1988 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59445 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted circa 05/19883 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59604 | 59445 | 53919 | Listed at TS - 01/09/89 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59604 | 59445 | 53919 | Listed at TS - 01/12/89 | ||||
51853 | 59445 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted 06/05/1990 - at Tyseley depot5 | |||||
T404 | 51853 | 59445 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at TS - mid May-90 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59445 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted circa 12/19903 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59445 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at TS - Jul-91 | ||||
T420 | 51856 | 59032 | 59604 | 53092 | Listed at TS - Aug-91 | ||||
spare | 59604 | Listed at TS - Dec-91 | |||||||
T404 | 51853 | 59604 | 59661 | 53919 | Noted circa 01/19923 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59604 | 59661 | 53919 | Listed at TS - 02/07/92 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59604 | 59603 | 53919 | Noted circa 09/19923 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59603 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at TS - 24/09/92 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59603 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at TS - November 1992 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59735 | 59604 | 53919 | Listed at TS - 10/12/92 | ||||
T404 | 51853 | 59735 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted 22nd January 1993 | ||||
T354 | 51853 | 59604 | 53919 | Noted 11/09/93 - at Longbridge |
Formation Sources
1: Gerald Brown
2: Phil Shatford
3: Eddie Knorn
4: Chris Moxon
5: Jeremy Goodyear
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Suburban 3-car formed 53919, 59604 & 53866 departing Chester working the 17.10 Chester-Wolverhampton, 1/9/85. Anthony Griffiths.
A snowy day in Henley in Arden early in 1986 with a class 116 DMU departing towards Birmingham. Displaying set number TS621 in the cab window the vehicles are presumably 53919 + 59604 + 53837. Bob Belcher.
This isn't the greatest shot of Smethwick West signal box but I was keen to have a few pictures of trains passing it as even in 1986 there were reports of its closure. This finally happened in 1990 when the line was resignalled. Here is my only picture of a DMU passing the box with T621 (presumably 53837 + 59604 + 53919) passing by on a Birmingham New Street to Great Malvern service on 29 August 1986. I once spoke to a relief signalman who worked the box on occasions and was told that the frame interlocking area had a large population of rats in residence and that the relatively isolated location made it a target for vandals from the surrounding area. Few signalmen mourned its passing. Peter Tandy.
Class 116 units M53116 + M59611 + M53055 / M53837 + M59604 + M53919 at Tapton Junction, Chesterfield on the 6th September 1986 with a Birmingham New Street-Sheffield football excursion. Kevin Law.
Seen at Tyseley on 15 April 1987 are 53111 (withdrawn a few weeks later) + 593?? + 59604 + 53837 and 51661. Stuart Mackay Collection.
Tyseley DMU set TS621 (53837 + 59604 + 53919) in Blaenau Ffestiniog station on 22 July 1987. Keith Miller.
Tyseley DMU set T404 (presumably 53919 + 59661 + 59604 + 51853) heading back to the West Midlands on a Summer Saturday North Wales train at Mostyn Docks on 11 July 1992. Andrew Bond.
On 2 May 1993 Pathfinder ran a mini-railtour in connection with an open day at Worcester using 20138+20066. The 2 locos were, unusually, hauling two 4-car DMUs, T404 (51853+59735+59604+53919) + T412 (51860+59591+59446+53116) which ran from Birmingham New Street to Worcester via the Lickey incline, and then on to Hereford and back via Great Malvern. The first of four shots was taken as train slowed for the junction at Stoke Prior before it turned onto the single line to Droitwich and Worcester. Peter Tandy.
On 2 May 1993 Pathfinder ran a mini-railtour in connection with an open day at Worcester using 20138+20066. The 2 locos were, unusually, hauling two 4-car DMUs, T404 (51853+59735+59604+53919) + T412 (51860+59591+59446+53116) which ran from Birmingham New Street to Worcester via the Lickey incline, and then on to Hereford and back via Great Malvern. The second of four shots was taken after a quick drive down to Ashchurch with a couple of minutes to spare. It is interesting to note that the trees on the up side of the line were still quite small in 1993. They subsequently grew very tall and were felled in 2004. Peter Tandy.
On 2 May 1993 Pathfinder ran a mini-railtour in connection with an open day at Worcester using 20138+20066. The 2 locos were, unusually, hauling two 4-car DMUs, T404 (51853+59735+59604+53919) + T412 (51860+59591+59446+53116) which ran from Birmingham New Street to Worcester via the Lickey incline, and then on to Hereford and back via Great Malvern. There was plenty of time to run over to Stoke Edith, on the Worcester - Hereford line, to obtain the third of four shots. The sun still co-operated for this pleasantly rural view. Peter Tandy.
On 2 May 1993 Pathfinder ran a mini-railtour in connection with an open day at Worcester using 20138+20066. The 2 locos were, unusually, hauling two 4-car DMUs, T404 (51853+59735+59604+53919) + T412 (51860+59591+59446+53116) which ran from Birmingham New Street to Worcester via the Lickey incline, and then on to Hereford and back via Great Malvern. This was the final shot of four of the tour - no longer in full sun which infuriated some of the more vocal enthusiasts - but still quite an acceptable shot. It is the classic view at Stoke Edith which I expect is now so overgrown as to be unusable. Peter Tandy.
T404 (53919 + 59604 + 59735 + 51853) calls at Northfield on the 12:25 Longbridge - New St., 9th July 1993. Gazza Prescott.
Hybrid DMU set T354 (53919 + 59604 + 51853) at Nottingham on 20/7/93. Sparegang.
Hybrid Class 116/127/115 DMU set T354 (53919 + 59604 + 51853) at Nottingham on 20/7/93. Sparegang.
T354 (M53919+M59604+M51853) at Birmingham International on the 12:00 to New St. Kevin Dowd.
T354 (M51853+M59604+M53919) at Longbridge on the 14:45 to New St. Kevin Dowd.